Who's blocking RCS?

shelbyfan

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    Tmobile S10E. This is getting stupid, RCS is only available on specific phones and only between those certain phones and only if they are TMobile branded. I have it with Samsung messages but I prefer Google messages. Is it TMobile, Samsung, Google? Seriously, someone needs to fix it.

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      • syaoran

        Re: Who's blocking RCS?

        RCS on Google Messages works fine on my Mi MIX 3 using my T-Mobile SIM.  Samsung is notorious along with some other manufacturers to limiting features to their stock apps only.

        • tmo_mike_c

          Re: Who's blocking RCS?

          Are you seeing that message through a third party messaging app or the pre-installed one. Advanced Messaging is available through T-Mobile devices, but isn't something guaranteed for devices sold outside T-Mobile channels.

          • vampirerove86

            Re: Who's blocking RCS?

            I'm dealing with the same thing on my Galaxy S10+. From what I understand, it's because T-Mobile has their own proprietary Universal Profile which allows for Advanced Messaging. Chatting in Android Messaging won't work even when they release the Universal Profile 1.0 to ALL of its devices because T-Mobile is refusing or just hasn't connected to the Google Jibe Hub like other carriers so that we can all interconnect with one another across carriers. Unfortunately, T-Mobile is struggling with releasing the Universal Profile to their devices even though they've been working on it for a few years. Google knows how slow and slothful carriers are so they are trying to work around this and bypass the carrier themselves. They've begun testing in the UK and France. They announced this earlier in the week and testing began yesterday morning so that's amazing turnaround time. If all goes well there, we should be seeing it soon with no thanks to our wonderful carriers. It's just kind of pathetic and annoying because Google did the work for them with opening up the Jibe Hub to them and was willing to work with them just as they have with those who have connected to it and for whatever reason, T-Mobile just couldn't seem to get on board. How can you not get on board with something like this when you're obviously struggling to make it happen and another company has done all of the leg work for you?! I don't get that. It's frustrating.

            • grazman

              Re: Who's blocking RCS?

              Tmobile is like ANY carrier. There's no (un)carrier here when it comes to SMS/MMS with tmobile. They play to specific vendors and phones to boost those device sales. This prevents me from buying a cheap android from some questionable hardware manufacturer, installing android messages and getting a near iMessage experience.

               

              Google was slothy in the arrival of the realization that adding SMS to Hangouts. Birthing and then killing allo. And then finally linking Duo to messages...

               

              So in Europe in maybe two weeks they rolled out Jibe to the 5 largest carriers. That does not make RCS a defacto standard (even though it is) because Apple is holding out their interoperability with RCS. This only works in apple's favor. The RCS "islands" by US carriers works in the favor or carriers who subsidize expensive phone on plans to their subscribers that are not apple devices.

               

              Before I switched form Sprint i had RCS on my galaxy. I'm in woe at the stone age of messaging on tmobile. Yes I have an s10, still not here. NO i will not use the stupid clunky samsung/tmobile app.

               

              If tmobile wanted to be the uncarrier they would one up their game. Sprint actually did this better than tmobile. go figure.

               

              We can start arguing universal versus advanced messaging though it's pointless. Everyone is asking tmobile for RCS universal and to connect to other darn carriers. Why they don't... they are no the UNcarrier they claim to be. Good marketing though.

              • drewkills

                Re: Who's blocking RCS?

                Go onto the Play store and search for an app called Carrier Services from Google, after installing it that error message should go away and allow you to activate chat features.

                • dustinnn

                  Re: Who's blocking RCS?

                  I still have the same problem in my pixel 2. Google said it should work and T-Mobile said it should work but T-Mobile playa wording games and replies to my RCS questions with "advanced messaging" as their replies. We shouldn't need to be asking this for months and months and still getting the run-around.

                   

                  I also installed that app called "carrier services" and nothing changed in the Google messages app in chat features, I still have the same issue the original poster does.

                  • forjam

                    Re: Who's blocking RCS?

                    Same here. I'm using a Pixel 2 with Android Messages. I came back to T-Mobile from Google Fi using this same phone. RCS was enabled with Fi but not with T-Mo. Obviously this is a T-Mo compliance (neglect) issue and should be remedied in the interest of moving communications and technology forward. It's just the right thing to do.

                      • dustinnn

                        Re: Who's blocking RCS?

                        Yup, T-Mobile won't admit it but it's them, I have chatted with them a few times about it and they passed the fault to Google every time so it's something they are bring tools to tell customers instead of sitting it and losing customers. Might be time to drop TMobile after all these years, I'm just running out of patience getting the run around.

                          • syaoran

                            Re: Who's blocking RCS?

                            Nah!  It's just the lazy OEM's that don't want to support something that only applies to one carrier.  Once Google incorporates it into Android, that won't be an issue any longer.

                              • dustinnn

                                Re: Who's blocking RCS?

                                No, it is built into messages which is a pre installed Google APK. If it's working on the same phone on 2 didn't carriers then how does that make it the phone/Google?

                                  • syaoran

                                    Re: Who's blocking RCS?

                                    It is built into Messages now, but hasn't always been.  That update for Messages came out over the summer of this year, I believe.  Most carriers do not support RCS, which is why it isn't a huge priority.  T-Mobile does support RCS and so does Google Messages, but RCS from Google's Messages app are basically restricted to working on devices Google has tested.  OnePlus 7 Pro, Pixel devices, and a few more.  Across devices, it is hit and miss and I have not seen anything published from Google listing the supported devices for RCS for Google Messages.  One example, RCS does not work on T-Mobile on my Mi MIX 3 using Google Messages.  What device are you using?

                                      • dustinnn

                                        Re: Who's blocking RCS?

                                        All 3 are pixels, pixel 3, pixel 2, pixel 2 XL. So why does it work on

                                        other carriers on the same exact pixel device ?

                                         

                                        Dustin

                                          • syaoran

                                            Re: Who's blocking RCS?

                                            Because Google has gotten around to working with those carriers to make sure it works properly.  Why people forget that T-Mobile is the third largest wireless carrier, I don't know.  AT&T and Verizon will always come first and second, because they have triple the customers of T-Mobile each.  It is good business to favor your best customers first.  Android Messages is also a Google app.  Perhaps e-mail Google support for the app or join their beta program to help get your feedback heard.  Companies like Samsung, LG, and many more really don't want to have to support every carrier with every piece of firmware they put out.  That is somewhat the point behind Google eventually pushing RCS. 

                                             

                                            With the SprinT-Mobile merger, that also leaves a lot of mess to get sorted out.  Why do the work for two carriers when eventually it will become one, potentially changing those settings in their app?  If the issue was T-Mobile's side, then RCS wouldn't work at all on any device. 

                                              • dustinnn

                                                Re: Who's blocking RCS?

                                                I think my problem is that I can't understand why T-Mobile tells me that

                                                they support it but my phone must not work with it and that it should work

                                                if my phone supports it.  If what you're saying is right they should be

                                                telling me that they do not support RCS yet and might not anytime soon

                                                instead of telling me that it should be working.

                                                 

                                                Dustin

                                  • magenta78660

                                    Re: Who's blocking RCS?

                                    Works with a Fi sim It does not work with a tmbile sim. The phone i have is dual sim.

                                    • magenta1725094

                                      Re: Who's blocking RCS?

                                      T-Mobile is scamming everyone. RCS should work on our phones. Everyone should move to another carrier.

                                        • dustinnn

                                          Re: Who's blocking RCS?

                                          I agree, whatever isn't working is on T-Mobile to get fixed. I paid for a

                                          phone capable of RCS and now I pay for service and they can't get it to

                                          work.  If they can't get it working that's up to TMobile to get right.

                                           

                                          Dustin

                                        • sethro244

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                                          • carpecerevisi

                                            Re: Who's blocking RCS?

                                            https://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-enable-rcs-messaging-1047089/

                                            Just used this method on my Pixel 3aXL and RCS works great.  I had heard something about tmo trying to implement some other advanced messaging thign that hasn't panned out for years, and Google just went ahead and took the reins to get theirs going first.  As someone said earlier, any cheapo chinese phone can now have something that is just as good as iMessage, arguably better because it doesn't require you to be shackled to an iPhone.

                                            • befaw1

                                              Re: Who's blocking RCS?

                                              Tried to activate on my Pixel 3a today and doesn't work as of today. Have officially expressed my disgust to T-mobile for not supporting a feature on a phone they sell. I'm hopeful they will add soon. Or maybe I'll find a new carrier.

                                              • eturk

                                                Re: Who's blocking RCS?

                                                I'm still not seeing the message asking me to turn on RCS. I still see in Settings/Chat Features/Your carrier does not currently support this feature.

                                                Is it just me or are others still not getting RCS? Maybe Google still rolling it out?

                                                 

                                                I have unlocked Pixel 4 XL w/ Google Messages app v5.3.075 (Nov 19).

                                                  • dustinnn

                                                    Re: Who's blocking RCS?

                                                    You need to have the "beta" version of the messages app and it will take a

                                                    few tries in the correct order sometimes depending on the phone. I set it

                                                    up on 3 pixel phones, all were slightly different how quickly you it worked.

                                                     

                                                    Dustin

                                                      • eturk

                                                        Re: Who's blocking RCS?

                                                        So Dustin,

                                                        You were suddenly prompted by Messages app asking to turn RCS on? You didn't hack it yourself?

                                                        What date did you get asked on those 3 phones?

                                                          • dustinnn

                                                            Re: Who's blocking RCS?

                                                            No, I used the app to turn it on/hack it. However, after this months update

                                                            and then an update on the app a day later and my wife's phone randomly

                                                            asked to be connected to RCS all over again in a new set-up, so maybe

                                                            that's what they rolled out and is supposed to just start working on your

                                                            phone you mean?   Did you try the other method of "hacking it" ?