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Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

loucap

    Of all the phones to come out this year, the Huawei Mate 20 Pro has me the most intrigued.  While not available here in the USA, I was wondering if an international variant would work on T-Mobile, particularly for wi-fi calling.  Here are the bands the Mate 20 Pro works on...

     

    • GSM:
      • 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
    • UMTS:
      • 800, 850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz
    • LTE (FDD):
      • Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 12, 17, 18, 19, 20, 26, 28, 32
    • LTE (TDD):
      • Bands 34, 38, 39, 40
    • Data:
      • LTE-A Pro Cat 21 (1400/200 Mbit/s), HSDPA+ (4G) 42.2 Mbit/s, HSUPA

     

    From what I'm seeing, it looks like it will work for calls and data, but I have no idea about the Wi-Fi calling aspect.  Thoughts?

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      • codified

        Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

        Thank you for posting this question loucap! I came here and signed up to do the same thing. I'm currently with Sprint but I'm willing to change a T-Mobile if this phone is supported.

         

        The particular version that looks to be available to me immediately is from Singapore, not the UK.

         

        It looks to be model code LYA-L29, which is Huawei Mate 20 Pro 6.39 Inches Dual SIM 40MP 6GB RAM Factory Unlocked Phone.

         

        The band specifications for the phone from Singapore look to be the same as loucap showed above in the original post.

         

        As someone who has never tried to use an international unlocked phone with a US carrier would anyone be able to help and let me know if we expect that the country source of the phone will impact its usability on T-Mobile?  Or is it just the listed bands that really matters on whether it's usable with T-Mobile?

         

        Thank you in advance for any information.

        • tmo_chris

          Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

          Hey folks!

          That phone has most of the band support needed to work with T-Mobile network bands & technologies but the Wi-Fi calling is not guaranteed as we do not sell it and have not configured it to work properly with all of our services.

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            • loucap

              Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

              Hmmm...hopefully someone will buy one and test this out. Otherwise, I might have to be the guinea pig.

                • codified

                  Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                  Welp. I took the plunge. Mate 20 Pro should be here in a couple weeks at latest and just signed up for TMobile service. Fingers, toes and eyes crossed for luck. Will certainly update once the rubber hits the road.

                   

                  Thanks for your original informative post loucap!

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                    • pongalong

                      Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                      Looking forward to hearing back. WiFi calling is a must for me!

                      • webadass

                        Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                        Pls let us know whether wifi calling works. It is a must for me as well. Thanks.

                          • codified

                            Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                            Well there is bad news for those who would rely on Wi-Fi calling. For reference, I have the international unlocked LYA-L29 updated to build number 9.0.0.126.

                             

                            tldr:
                            No WiFi calling on T Mobile, the regular mobile network call quality seems clear and T-Mobile's data is a reasonable up-and-down speed.

                             

                            Details:
                            I cannot find any evidence of the Wi-Fi calling setting anywhere in the phone. I tried under two different settings locations that were recommended on the web for the Mate 20 Pro as well as in previous P10 and P 20 Pro phones.

                             

                            Neither of these settings locations had the option for Wi-Fi calling shown. It wasn't just grayed out it's simply wasn't there.

                            One location is under Settings... Wireless & Networks... Mobile network. There should be a Wi-Fi calling slider button here under 4G slider button according to screenshots found online. It's not there.

                             

                            The other location is to open the phone dialer click the three dots in the upper right click settings and we should see Wi-Fi calling there. It's not there.

                             

                            As tmo-chris indicated it looks like T-Mobile is not supporting Wi-Fi calling on the Huawei Mate 20 Pro. So it's a T-Mobile issue rather than a phone issue.

                             

                            The phone works fine to make calls, and data works as well. I've placed some calls and call clarity was great. I also turned off WiFi and ran several speed tests with the Ookla Speedtest app. The Speedtest app on T Mobile data showed some variability but pretty decent speeds (all following speeds rounded off to whole number Mbps). The lowest was 13Mbps Down and 7Mbps Up. More often it ranged from 39Mbps - 49Mbps Down and 14Mbps - 17Mbps Up.

                            I am switching from Sprint and still have their service I ran speed tests on the same app on a different phone on Sprint's mobile data network. Sprint speeds ran between 48Mbps - 57Mbps Down and 2Mbps - 3Mbps Up.

                             

                            I am not familiar with T-Mobile speeds for very long but they look to be slower Down in my area than Sprint which is a serious bummer. T-Mobile is much faster Up, but I don't care about that.

                            So, hope this helps everyone considering the Huawei mate 20 Pro. It does not have Wi-Fi calling on the T-Mobile network, and unless T-Mobile actively works to support WiFi calling on this phone it will not have it in the future.

                             

                            However so far call quality and data is acceptable, I will update if that changes.

                             

                            PS- Other than WiFi calling (and no access to Huawei cloud or other Huawei apps because they are not supported in the US), this phone is a freaking dream come true.

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                              • magenta6656789

                                Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                There is no Wifi calling on this phone I looked all over the phone..It

                                works well with T mobile service. Phone is really fast..and very very good

                                camera.. Thanks

                                • loucap

                                  Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                  Thanks for trying!  It's disappointing that the Wi-Fi calling won't work, but it's still an awesome phone!  Unfortunately, I need that Wi-Fi calling for an area I frequent that is a cellular dead zone for ALL carriers.  I have the OnePlus 6T arriving this week (International Unlocked) so we'll see how that does on T-Mobile.  Being that they're selling it too (locked), it should work like a champ!

                                  • dragon1562

                                    Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                    Small correction this is not an issue of T-mobile not supporting wifi calling on the device but the other way around with Huwai not supporting it.

                                    • toner_45

                                      Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                      Looking to get the Mate 20 Pro or the Mate 20 X here in the next month or so. Just wanted to see if you had any tips on purchasing? Where you got yours and what to look for as far as returns or certain bands? Thanks.

                                        • magenta6656789

                                          Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                          I got mine on E bay when I bought  mine one one person had in stock ..I

                                          paid 1200 but you can now buy it for 1064.00 on e bay and as well

                                          Amzon..Just make sure that they accept returns.. in case some thing goes

                                          wrong with it...and check there ratings as well.. This is the most amazing

                                          phone I ever used...Good luck .Tanks .Tariq

                                          • codified

                                            Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                            tldr; Best phone I've ever had and everything I hoped for, but you better do your research on the green tint screen bleed and recognize that you're gambling.

                                             

                                            Well, I got mine on eBay as well it was pretty fast shipping and paid 1199.99 from a USA based seller who was very responsive and who I would recommend. The purchasing experience was great, this is the one I got (price has since dropped by $50, link below).

                                            https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Huawei-Mate-20-Pro-6-39-Inches-Dual-SIM-40MP-6GB-RAM-Factory-Unlocked-Phone-/263997277658

                                             

                                            First thing I would say is absolutely do some research about a green tint screen bleed. this is a problem that is apparently quite pervasive and popping up on quite a few mate 20 devices with different degrees of severity. since the phone would likely be bought from an international source and Huawei would provide no u.s. warranty, it could be quite the Gamble.

                                             

                                            I can actually see the screen bleed on the phone that I got, but it's quite infinitesimal. I have to go into a pitch-black closet, bring up a dark gray but not black background, and play with the brightness slider. But the green tint bleed is there... unambiguously there.

                                            Also, something I haven't seen other people mention, is it in the stock camera app as you cycle between portrait, Pro, Photo, video, there is bleed from the top of the screen near the notch. This bleed only dimly flashes downward from the icons that switch in and out as I cycle between the settings, and again is noticeable in a dark  (but not Pitch Black) room.

                                             

                                            Finally in terms of the display, if I go to YouTube and just play gray background screens, I get an intermittent and irreproducible dark slight blotching affect creeping from the edges of the screen toward the middle.

                                             

                                            From what I understand Huawei is trying to say that at least the first and third display issues I described above are features of the curved screen. I can attest this is absolutely not the case, because the green bleed and dark blotchiness are not regular along the curved Edge and also can occur near the top and the bottom of the display.

                                             

                                            I wanted to be really transparent, and set expectations for the worst. Having said that it's really quite unnoticeable to me, I have to work at making these display issues noticeable. I might not have even noticed them if I hadn't read about the pervasive problem and set myself up in a pitch-black room to probe the problem. I may post some of this on XDA Dev forum to compare notes with others, but haven't done that yet.

                                             

                                            My concern is whether these will grow in magnitude and severity. if I was assured that my phone would stay in the condition it's at, and never get worse I wouldn't even consider returning it. Unfortunately it's too early to tell whether the problem will get more severe we just don't have enough data, or time in flight yet.

                                             

                                            I still have a short period of time before my return window closes through the seller and I would be stuck trying to do a send in to an international warranty in Asia. That's not a fun thought. I'm hoping that over this next little bit of time I can ascertain whether there's even a minimal increase in severity, in which case I will return the phone. But if it stays at the state that it's in, quite frankly it's such an awesome phone that I'll probably just keep it and Gamble.

                                             

                                            Okay so what makes it awesome? As to what I would be comparing it against I also got a OnePlus 6T (locked, from T-Mobile), and have been switching back and forth between the mate 20 Pro and the OnePlus 6T for a few days.

                                             

                                            I know the OnePlus gets rave reviews, and my SO (who has a OnePlus 6Tas well) loves it, but to me it pales in comparison to the mate 20 Pro. Frankly I only got the OnePlus 6T phone for myself because it was priced at half off through T-Mobile and just in case I have to bail on the mate 20 Pro. Because of its Wi-Fi calling and volte, I'll probably use the OnePlus when traveling to some areas.

                                             

                                            But, so far each time I switch over to the OnePlus, and shelve the mate 20 Pro for a day, I do it with a Grimace and a sigh of despair.

                                            Don't get me wrong, I'm sure I would have loved the OnePlus, if I had never held the mate Pro. For the half-off price it's a no-brainer. At the T-Mobile half off price for the OnePlus, it's only 1/4 as expensive as the mate 20 Pro! That's an insane cost differential. It's just hard to climb down off of the top, even though the OnePlus is objectively a great phone (except the one plus in screen fingerprint sensor is blindingly bright in a dark or dim room, annoyingly bright).

                                             

                                            Ok, so... mate 20 Pro: I really love the form and the features. It's simply the best phone I've ever had. Better than the note 7 that I had briefly until the Samsung battery police came and grabbed it from me before it might have blown up

                                             

                                            The emui 9.0 UI is really nice (coming from falling and LG) I'm not sure why people don't like emui. I'm digging the gestures. The face unlock is wicked fast even in the dark. I can uninstall or basically block the few bloatware apps that came preinstalled. The screen recorder is just awesome (although Huawei might regret putting that on there since I'm using it to capture some of the screen issues).The knock split screen and other knock features are intuitive and I'm already addicted to them.

                                             

                                            It is true that with gestures fully enabled things like picture and picture are difficult, and sometimes unworkable. this doesn't bother me too much and I can usually gesture a couple of times to get around it, but I can imagine it would bug the heck out of some people. If you don't use gestures and instead use the nav buttons, this is not an issue at all.

                                             

                                            The one thing that I can't figure out if it's my user ignorance or a phenomenally stupid oversight by Huawei is that there is no apparent way to toggle auto brightness on and off in the notification tray. You have to dig down deep into the full settings to toggle auto brightness on and off. This is enormously frustrating, I don't know if it's a bug, or a feature of emui 9.0. It might not bother others but for me it detracts from the user experience to a surprisingly large degree.

                                             

                                            Overall again it's a fantastic phone it's everything I was hoping for. Not having Wi-Fi calling is not a big deal for me, not having (apparently) voLTE doesn't seem to be a big deal as I get fast calls with great reception. even with Wi-Fi turned off so that I'm exclusively using the cellular network, I am able to send and receive texts and gmail and cruise around online websites while on a phone call... which is absolutely essential to me. Interestingly the only thing that I expected to work when I'm on the phone but which doesn't seem to, is sending and receiving messages through the Viber app. When I send messages or am sent messages through Viber, they're held up until I end the call. I'm not sure why I would be able to access the internet when on a call, but not use Viber.

                                             

                                            I'm just desperately hoping that the screen issues stay as infinitesimally minimal as they currently are, cuz I really really really really want to keep this phone. But, caveat emptor.

                                      • rockstar2005

                                        Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                        Hi codified,

                                         

                                        Can you tell me though, does the L29 version you bought have VoLTE enabled on T-Mobile?! I'd REALLY like to know!

                                         

                                        You should see it listed in Call or Network Settings, but more importantly, during a call, it should connect in under 5 seconds and also it should say "HD+ or "HD Voice" on the stock phone app as well.

                                         

                                        Thanks in advance!!

                                          • codified

                                            Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                            Hmmm, I don't think that voLTE is enabled on the Huawei mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile. You may need to give me some follow-up guidance though and how to double check or confirm this.

                                             

                                            I don't see anything in the settings that you mentioned (settings in the stock dialer, or in the general phone settings under 'Wireless and networks'). Also, to your second point, when I make calls there is no HD or HD+ icon; this includes both outbound and inbound calls, neither has that icon. When I look online the phone appears to support the Bands which would be used for voLTE, but I don't see that it's actually implemented or available.

                                             

                                            Okay here's where it gets dicey though... we also have the t mobile locked OnePlus 6T, and I can't find any mention of voLTE in the 6T stock dialer settings, or in the General phone settings under 'Wi-Fi & internet'). Having said that when I make outbound calls to the mate 20 Pro the HD+ icon appears in the stock dialer of the 6T. But when I receive an inbound call on the OnePlus 6T from the mate 20 Pro, the only phone I've checked and inbound call on, there is no HD+ icon. That's why I hesitate to give you a solid answer, my positive control so to speak of the OnePlus 6T is only showing it for outbound calls, and so I might not be interpreting that correctly.

                                             

                                            As to why vo LTE does not show up in the OnePlus settings, perhaps this link indicates something? Since T-Mobile says that it can't be turned on or off perhaps they have hidden it in the settings, and it's just always on. Link below.

                                             

                                            https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-38906#steps7

                                             

                                            Hope this helps.

                                              • rockstar2005

                                                Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                Yeah I just got the T-Mobile 6T also, but MIGHT wanna upgrade to the Mate 20 Pro. What I discovered just yesterday is that for all 2018 T-Mobile locked phones, VoLTE isn't listed in Settings. You may not even see the HD+/HD Voice icon in the stock app either. I know, crazy. lol

                                                 

                                                So the way to tell is, make a call, and if during the call your phone STAYS in 4G LTE, you HAVE VoLTE! Also, it should connect the call in 5 seconds or less. If it switches to 4G and/or takes over 5 seconds to connect, you don't. Do that kindly please and then let me know what happens.

                                                  • codified

                                                    Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                    Awesome forensic advice about the icons. That appears to be an effective way to determine whether the vo LTE is indeed enabled on both outbound and inbound calls.

                                                     

                                                    Results in a nutshell-

                                                     

                                                    Huawei mate 20 Pro switches from the 4G LTE icon immediately to the 4G alone icon as soon as an Outward Bound call is placed, or when an incoming call is picked up. As soon as either call is ended it immediately switches back from bog standard 4G to 4G LTE.

                                                     

                                                    The T-Mobile OnePlus 6T never loses the 4G LTE icon regardless of whether the call is placed outbound, or an incoming call is received. The 4G LTE icon is there before during and after hang up.

                                                     

                                                    Okay icons aside, I'm not sure that the 5 second rule is so definitive. Everytime I call from the mate 20 Pro to the OnePlus 6T, or call a local retail landline, or call my Google Voice number... The Huawei mate 20 Pro Connects the call in usually 2 to 3 seconds, occasionally up to four seconds, but never 5 seconds or more. I timed the OnePlus 6T making the same calls on 4G LTE and it wasn't any faster.

                                                     

                                                    So, thanks for your investigative aptitude. it looks from my end like the Huawei mate 20 Pro definitely does not have 4G LTE enabled on T-Mobile network, and the OnePlus 6T has it working in all cases regardless of whether the HD/HD+ icon actually appears in the stock dialer during a call. Having said that the Huawei mate 20 Pro Connects just as fast.

                                                      • rockstar2005

                                                        Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                        Ok. So I guess even on the dual SIM model, VoLTE's a no-go. Very sad!

                                                         

                                                        Thanks so much for checking on that! I will consider it further, but now I'm less likely to return my new T-Mobile OnePlus 6T for this phone. It's band enough that it doesn't have Band 71, but not having VoLTE (which I need for access to T-Mobile's Band 12 for phone calls) is just ridiculous to me. So the question becomes, is having the best camera worth having a phone that may not make or take calls when you might really need it?

                                                         

                                                        It helps that I'm using the modded GCam camera app (same as one used on the Pixel phones, including "Night Sight") from XDA on the 6T though. Picture quality is much better than what stock offers.

                                                         

                                                        Yeah the 5 second rule is more of a secondary "guideline" indicator. The MAIN indicator is whether the phone stays in 4G LTE during a call or not.

                                                         

                                                        I dunno. On the 6T I initially put in the SIM card that came with the phone, which I think was faulty b/c with that SIM card, the phone was CLEARLY not enabling VoLTE during calls. But when I put in the one from my now former phone (T-Mo LG V30), VoLTE was CLEARLY enabled and working. But yeah when comparing the two, when VoLTE was enabled, the call connected significantly faster. I would say like 2-3 seconds vs. 10-15 seconds. No joke!

                                                         

                                                        Still, that IS interesting though (and favorable for Hauwei) that it connects that quickly without VoLTE. My plan was to buy the 6T (and got $300 off for trading in my old LG V30), and then in the spring get the P30 Pro or else Xperia XZ4 Premium. Right now after much research, I'm leaning more towards the P30 Pro b/c I feel Huawei offers more of everything I need. Many similar features like what OnePlus & Sony offer, including the "Raise to Ear" gesture which I love a lot. But I am HOPING they get VoLTE on it and so I can use Band 12 and also Band 71 too. Though I don't know if they will. I could also buy the Mate 20 Pro now, but then I wouldn't wanna upgrade that soon. Decisions decisions codified!! lol

                                                         

                                                        Thanks again my friend!!

                                                        • magenta2177538

                                                          Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                          tyvm for sharing these findings mouse looking dog creature. I myself is thinking of jumping from Samsung as the prices are ridiculous these days. I am ok with no wifi calling, haven't used it once in the last 3 years.

                                                            • dragon1562

                                                              Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                              get the one plus 6t I think you will be very pleased with the phone. You get all the flagship specs and important features needed to have a good experience on T-mobile for a reasonable cost.

                                                                • rockstar2005

                                                                  Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                                  I can vouch for what dragon is saying. I've had the T-Mobile 6T now for about 2 mos, and it's FANTASTIC! The screen is amazing (even outdoes my old LG V30's, which actually had a HIGHER resolution), awesome software (Oxygen) which many think is superior to Stock Android..........the battery life is fantastic, it's very fast, the charger ("Dash") outdoes QC 3.0, on-screen FS is cool, though I usually the Face Unlock feature which is super fast, etc etc. The camera is pretty good too, though I use the ported "GCam" camera mod which is based off the Pixel 3. It offers a noticeable upgrade vs. the stock one. If interested, lemme know and I can post the link here to download and try it out. Is it AS good as the cameras by Sony, Samsung, Apple? No, but it's DAMN close........esp for daylight outdoor pics. And even some indoor. Free too.

                                                                   

                                                                  Hard to believe I got all this for only $280 after trading in my old LG V30 ($300 trade-in).

                                                            • codified

                                                              Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                              PS if you're considering the Huawei mate 20 Pro, maybe check my post above describing my perspective relative to the OnePlus 6T and a note about a watch out on the screen.

                                                                • rockstar2005

                                                                  Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                                  Very good review and comparison to the 6T you did!! Very helpful!

                                                                   

                                                                  Let me know if interested in the GCam app for the 6T. It won't make the pictures Mate 20 Pro quality, but you will definitely notice an upgrade in quality. I don't even bother with the stock camera app anymore. Night Sight helps with low light & nighttime pictures too, much like what I believe is on the P20 Pro and Mate 20 Pro (Night Mode).

                                                        • magenta6656789

                                                          Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                          I am getting one soon will let you know..

                                                            • rockstar2005

                                                              Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                              Hi magenta,

                                                               

                                                              Can you tell me though, does the L29 version you bought have VoLTE enabled on T-Mobile?! I'd REALLY like to know!

                                                               

                                                              You should see it listed in Call or Network Settings, but more importantly, during a call, it should connect in under 5 seconds and also it should say "HD+ or "HD Voice" on the stock phone app as well.

                                                               

                                                              Thanks in advance!!

                                                          • loucap

                                                            Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                            While that's disappointing, at least we can get theOnePlus 6T now!

                                                              • dragon1562

                                                                Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                                One Plus 6T is exciting but the killing of the headphone jack was a real bummer ended up ordering an S9+ through Samsung since they are also running a deal till tomorrow where they give double the trade in value on devices. Still, the One Plus 6T looks amazing.

                                                            • syaoran

                                                              Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                              The Canadian version of the phone supports band 66 and should support T-Mobile's WiFi Calling.  Rogers (AT&T Canada uses the stock Andeoid implementation of WiFi Calling, which is also what T-Mobile uses. 

                                                              • magenta6713578

                                                                Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                                I really want to have the Huawei mate 20 pro for quite a while but I'm still wondering. Still no return?

                                                                  • syaoran

                                                                    Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                                    These things are sold out just about everywhere up in Canada.  Here is a picture from the About Phone screen of the demo I had to go to half a dozen stores to actually find. 

                                                                     

                                                                    IMG_20181129_115258.jpg

                                                                      • rockstar2005

                                                                        Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                                        Lucky you! Here in the U S., if you "dare" to buy one, don't count on having the best reception vs. other T-Mo locked phones. NO access to Bands 12 & 71 cuz no T-Mo VoLTE. I think it's all BS about them spying on us. BEST phone in the world, but can't get it without a big sacrifice.

                                                                         

                                                                        I got the T-Mo 6T, which is GREAT!! But even with the GCam app, the camera still can't do what the Mate's does for Night time photos, though it's not far off either!!  

                                                                          • loucap

                                                                            Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                                            This is why I didn't get the Mate 20 Pro for use on T-Mobile. Awesome phone, just not in this application.  Like you,  I bought a 6T, and it's been great!

                                                                              • rockstar2005

                                                                                Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                                                Yeah lou. I always have this bad luck too. lol Sony has been my fav for YEARS (had the T-Mo Z3 too), but b/c of their or T-Mo's or both's refusal to sell through T-Mo (or any U.S. carrier), I end up missing out. It didn't matter in 2016 when I got the Xperia X Performance b/c my area didn't have Band 12 yet anyway. But now it does. Yeah the XZ3 I got (and returned) had VoLTE (a first for an UNLOCKED Sony phone lol) and therefore access to Band 12 for calls, but still no Band 71, which my area (Chicagoland) is about to get deployed within the next month.

                                                                                 

                                                                                I'm just not a fan of Samsung or Apple ENOUGH to buy their phones anymore, though that really applies more for Apple b/c of their ridiculous prices. I owned the S5 (4 days lol) and S7 (4 mos), and really hated both overall. Lots of bugs and issues, crappy UI, etc. Though now they're a lot better and I MAY even consider the S10+ next spring. Though at the moment my top 2 faves are the upcoming P30 Pro and Xperia XZ4 or XZ4 Premium. I think Hauwei and Sony have the best cameras, though Apple's is great and color accurate too. Sony is more color accurate, where Apple and Samsung are still better (overall) at night. But I think that may change next year.

                                                                                 

                                                                                Did you get the Arnova Google Cam "GCam" app yet? It's the port over of the camera software app from the Pixel phones. Stock is pretty nice, but the GCam app to me overall is better and offers more detail in the pics too, as well as the better Night Mode. For the most part, it I think matches the best phones for daytime and selfie shots, though for Night Time it's really good but not THE best.

                                                                        • nahq.it

                                                                          Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                                          I got the Mate 20 Pro Dual SIM version today.  Amazing phone but as stated in previous posts there is no VoLTE and no VoWiFi support .  Please see the screenshot below .

                                                                           

                                                                          Screenshot_20190103_203727_com.wilysis.cellinfo.jpg

                                                                          • magenta3410434

                                                                            Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                                            Would be nice if Huawei had a firmware update that allowed for these bands (66+71) to be used. VOLTE works in Hong Kong and other parts of the world. Reception around Irvine is bad as is as Irvine does not really allow any cell towers to be put up so they can make people use Cox Cable which they have a monopoly over on and over charge customers with. This then forces people to pay extra money to COX Cable every month to have internet usage at home as cell data reception is poor for some odd reason

                                                                              • rockstar2005

                                                                                Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                                                Oh for sure magenta.........if they offered to send a software update that could add Band 66 & 71 capability, that would be huge! But VoLTE too. I have the OnePlus 6T right now and love it, but this spring I wanted to upgrade to either Sony or Huawei. But with all that's going on with them lately (espionage, etc.), and NO VoLTE or Band 66 & 71, I'm prob gonna pass on the P30 Pro and focus more on the Sony Xperia XZ4, which I think is gonna be incredible!

                                                                                 

                                                                                At least the P20 Pro had T-Mobile VoLTE. The Mate 20 Pro didn't even have that.

                                                                                 

                                                                                Wow...........that sux. F Irvine then! lol

                                                                                 

                                                                                I'm not holding my breath on Huawei sending out an update like that again given with what's going on. That applies to not only the upcoming P30 Pro but the P20 Pro and Mate 20 Pro as well. Hopefully I'm wrong. I also hope they're cleared of all these charges, but it's getting harder and harder to see them as being innocent of the charges made so far.

                                                                                  • magenta3410434

                                                                                    Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                                                    Sony Xperia XZ4 will most likely come with Facebook preinstalled into the OS with no uninstall option which will be the ultimate built in SPY tool but you could supposedly disable that built in SPY tool which has been know to SPY on users and track all their movements. No wonder China did not allow them into China lol..

                                                                                     

                                                                                    Many accusations against Huawei but none of the latest smartphones have concrete evidence in the system that it is spying on users. It is possible but so far none have been found on new recently released smartphones unlike Facebook.

                                                                                      • landonloco

                                                                                        Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                                                        Well even if it drops to 4G it's still VoLTE there is different types of VoLTE or rather Voip the most basic one is that you use LTE 100% for the call and use 2G for data although now t mobile uses 4G as backup I can even use 4G for HD voice and using the internet while on a call I do this with my LG stylo 3 plus altrough I see that it only drops to 4G in some areas some areas that it stays on LTE while on a call the only thing you can't do in 4G is video call

                                                                                        • rockstar2005

                                                                                          Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                                                          Yeah but I have that issue with all phones it seems. I just uninstall the ones I can, and the rest I just disable. I don't even have a FB account so I could care less about that crap. lol I always just disable the FB app on any phone I get during the initial setup, and then problem solved!

                                                                                           

                                                                                          I don't think Huawei is the only one doing that though. I'm almost certain other phones I've had by Samsung, LG, and HTC were the same. My current OnePlus 6T though DID let me uninstall it which is nice.

                                                                                           

                                                                                          Well the problem is, it's not just about spying through phones anymore. Now you have intellectual property theft accusations by T-Mobile, violating sanctions with Iran via bank fraud, etc. I don't know why the F they're doing all this stuff, or at the very least being accused of it. Makes me not want to support them anymore. Then yeah you add in no T-Mobile VoLTE here or Bands 66 (aka the 4G LTE section of Band 4) & 71, and it makes me not want to give them my business, despite how much I love their phones. We'll see how things go for them over the next year or so.

                                                                                    • landonloco

                                                                                      Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                                                      Ok no you can't use HD voice on 4G trough it shows if you establish the call on LTE what you can do while on a call on 4G is use the internet and it's weird that you can't turn off VoLTE on some phones I mean my stylo 3 plus allows me to do under calls settings sometimes is good to turn it off since some Areas VoLTE might be unstable and cause drop calls or calls cutting in and out

                                                                                        • rockstar2005

                                                                                          Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                                                          Yeah land, on pretty much all (if not all?) 2018 T-Mobile locked phones it appears the VoLTE setting isn't even listed anymore. Perhaps b/c T-Mobile doesn't want ppl to mess with it? But I believe that if during a call you're NOT in 4G LTE, then you DON'T have VoLTE. I had bought the Sony Xperia XZ3 last fall and it turned out to be the FIRST Sony unlocked phone that was T-Mobile VoLTE compatible. I only returned it b/c the camera was two steps back from the previous phone (XZ2 Premium). But I think the XZ4's triple lens setup + OIS will be killer!

                                                                                            • landonloco

                                                                                              Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                                                              I think Sony phones are cool the most coolest feature they have is their 4k screen altrough I say 4k on a phone is overkill but it's still would be nice to have it problem is if you use it it could drain your battery fast so I say I could live with a 2k or a 1080p screen if at least the panel was Oled altrough I heard that Sony has good management of that so that's a plus

                                                                                                • rockstar2005

                                                                                                  Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                                                                  Yeah I love Sony phones too. Always have, although the Xperia X Performance (2016) was a letdown and I didn't keep that phone long. lol The XZ3's camera was its downfall. No phone company is perfect, even Sony. But my Z3, I had it for like a year and a half, which for me is kinda long! lol

                                                                                                   

                                                                                                  I love 4K too although I'd rather have a QHD (aka 2.5K) HDR OLED phone so the battery life would be longer. But if they could make a 4K one with a LONG battery life too, then I'd be more open to it. Though 4K DOES make Sony stand out more since no one else is doing that.

                                                                                                   

                                                                                                  Yeah the Z3 had great battery life, the X Performance didn't. The XZ3 though did.

                                                                                                   

                                                                                                  We'll see what happens on 2/25 when Sony announces the XZ4 (or might be called N1?) at MWC!!

                                                                                            • landonloco

                                                                                              Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                                                              Yeah it seems so I don't make a lot of calls I use mostly the internet since I am teen I you know Internet is live lol trough my mom calls a lot she at one time turn it off since she didn't like the robotic voice of HD voice still call quality on VoLTE still needs tweaking for t mobile I mean my mom calls me and she always tells me that I sounds horrible when she calls me I don't know my only guess is the VoLTE or the HD voice I like VoLTE because the call connects quickly and HD voice cancels background noise so to me is a really nice feature to have

                                                                                              • headphonejack

                                                                                                Re: Huawei Mate 20 Pro on T-Mobile?

                                                                                                If you're looking for a phone with US/Canadian-centric features, have a look at the Umidigi F1.   The F1 supports Wifi Calling, VoLTE and NFC and it also supports the majority of LTE bands used in the North American market.  The Umidigi F1 basically does all of the things we'd like Huawei and Honor phones to do and it is available for a reasonable price...currently $219.00 on Amazon and less on your favorite Chinese websites.      

                                                                                                 

                                                                                                I own both Honor 8x and Umidigi F1 and use them on T-Mobile.  The F1 is my daily driver due to its superior feature set and superior LTE band support.  I'd like to get a Huawei Mate 20 Lite but will probably hold off because of its lack of Wifi Calling and VoLTE.