Let's see if we can figure out why this is happening, magenta6574639!
- what type of phones are being used (make and model)?
- what zip code does this generally occur in?
- how long has this been going on?
- is this a regular text, group text, or mms that doesn't go through?
Phone: Motorola Z2
Most common zip code: 98011; however, it happened while we were travelling in California also
It has been happening for months.
Regular text messages between 2 T-Mobile customers are the most frequent (between members of my family). We send text to others less frequently, so I can’t tell if the failure rate is similar.
Amanda asked some really good questions that'll help us give you more insight on how to get this fixed. Please take a look and let us know. You should also take a peek at our Text message (SMS) troubleshooting page and follow those steps to see if they help.
Following the steps in the FAQ:
1. No, we don’t get that error. We (eventually) get “Not sent. Tap to try again.” Trying again never works. Other message from the same sender, to the same recipient, both in the same locations, do work within minutes of the failure.
2. Generally, 3+ bars of service.
3. I’m the primary account holder. I don’t have Message blocking or Family Allowances set for any of the phones.
4. I don’t have a prepaid account
5. We tested with WiFi off
6. Restarting the device sometimes helps, but so does just sending another message (the original still doesn’t get delivered). Restarting every time I want to send a text is not a practical suggestion.
7. We do not have any devices on the Device Block or Spam List. And as I mentioned, message from the same sender to the same recipient do get through.
8. The date and time are auto-updating, and correct.
9. I have no other messaging apps installed. I did find in the past that Facebook messaging makes the problem MUCH worse, and removed it.
10. This did not help. The “Manage Messages” page doesn’t show an SMSC setting and I was unable to find one on the device.
11. I don’t use an iPhone
12. I don’t use an iPhone
13. The device is up-to-date. The problem has persisted through multiple updates.
14. There is considerably more than 15% free on all of the phones.
15. The issue is intermittent. I can send a text to my own number, but as I don’t do that very often I don’t know if it is any more reliable.
16. We’ve done this, but the problem persists.
17. This won’t help. The issue affects multiple devices (each with it’s own sim). I followed advice at the store and purchased brand new Moto Z2’s to replace the ones I ported from AT&T (at great expense) and the service isn’t any more reliable
18. Well, this email thread is in response to attempting to contact you, so…
I appreciate you being so thorough with your response. With intermittent issues like this, we'll need to collect examples of the messages failing and have our Team of Experts or T-Force folks file a Trouble Ticket. That'll give our engineers a bit more to work with when they work on getting this resolved.
I have been having this exact same problem for the past 6-12 months and find it incredibly frustrating to constantly have to be restarting my phone in order to SOMETIMES get my text messages to go out.... otherwise they stay hostage in my inbox with an orange "Not sent. Tap to try again" error message. Oddly, sometimes (despite that message being there) people reply to my messages... which seems to indicate that they've actually been sent -- despite the "Not sent..." error message being there. My phone is a Moto Z2 Force edition phone using the native "Messages" app that came with the phone.
Please let me know what I need to do in order to fix this since I'm missing important messages from clients and also our teen daughter who is waiting to be picked up from school. Thanks, Bryan
I agree that's frustrating but I have some ideas that may help. Most times if the phone stays on an error, but the message actually sends, we're looking at something software related. Do you clear out your messages regularly? This could be a memory issue.
Thanks for your reply and I'm REALLY hoping that one of your ideas can
finally help to get this resolved or, alternatively, help me identify a
third party texting app that won't have these same issues.
RE: OTHER SMS ISSUES...
Unfortunately, the issues with my text messages don't seem to be confined
to only error messages incorrectly showing what has/hasn't actually been
sent. It also appears that some text messages in group conversations are
being received by others but NOT BY ME?!?
Per the attached screenshot of an ongoing thread, my sister apparently sent
a message about a death in the family this morning that I DID NOT receive. I
only became aware of it when others in the conversation started replying
and I then texted those people separately to find out what they were
This is a great example of how challenging this can be when others believe
I'm ignoring something as significant as a death in the family.
RE: SMS DELETION...
In terms of DELETING MESSAGES, I am happy to delete every single message if
that will fix the problem. HOWEVER, I'm unaure how that will fix the
problem long term?
Moving forward, would this mean I can't save any messages or can't rely on
a feature/setting that automatically deletes messages that are older than a
certain date -- which is generally how I've handled this kind of stuff in
I'm VERY OPEN to any solution, but just want to make sure it's realistic
and sustainable moving forward.
Would it make sense to setup a phone call to discuss and try to
troubleshoot some solutions?
Let me know.
Sorry, forgot to attach the screenshot showing the missing message. Here
BTS SMS Missing Group Message.png
I'm terribly sorry you didn't get that message. Every message is important but that hurts missing ones from the family. Deleting the messages are tied to common memory issues. Sometimes too many messages on the device's memory can cause problems with sending/receiving messages. So, clearing some can help.
Testing the SIM in another phone is a good way to narrow down if this is a possible phone issue or not. If it's continuing in another phone, we'd be looking at something network connection related. In the instance it's happening on just the one phone, we'd need to look at resetting it as a last resort as this means there's something a little off with the software.
Those are a few things to consider testing to help us figure this out. Also, these errors and issues don't happen with any specific set of numbers? Do you know if this is happening a specific area or areas?
I just went through and deleted any messages that I didn't need, so
hopefully that will help.
IDEALLY I'd want to setup some sort of auto-delete rule where messages
older than a certain date would be removed automatically so I don't have to
spend too much time continually reviewing and deleting my SMS messages --
which seems more realistic and sustainable.
HOWEVER, while an auto-delete seems like a fairly common feature/function
in most messaging systems, I'm not readily finding that option in/on the
native "Messages" application that came with my Moto Z2 Force Edition phone
I purchased from T-Mobile.
Could you clarify if that's a feature I should be able to activate or
should I consider a different SMS/texting app that would allow this and
might also help with the over all issue of text messages not consistently
being sent/received on my phone.
Please let me know.
PS: will try to SIM card switch suggestion this weekend, but was curious if
I should be doing it on a similar type of phone (my partner has a MotoZ2
Force Play) or should it be on an entirely different style/type of phone?
You're right. Most phones do have an auto deletion option but it can be tricky finding it. I can't find any settings specifically for your phone. I'm using an LG V30. In my phone, I have to tap the 3 dots in the messaging app, tap settings, more, storage, then change the messaging limit that's stored on the phone. You can give those steps a shot, but there's a chance it may be different.
For the SIM test, you should be able to use another phone. At this point, we're just testing to see if the individual phone may be causing the issue so that test phone should be fine.