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    • jesseinsfmagenta

      46. Re: Oreo update for the  LG V30?

      I'm sorry but XDA forums is not legitimate enough plus if you go to the last page of that thread you will see that they are not sure that all bands work. So it's still inconclusive if they work or not. Regardless if it was a Tweet from T-Mobile management team, the official answer would be either in the Specs of the manufacturer page and/or on the official T-Mobile news site.

      • enigmaco

        47. Re: Oreo update for the  LG V30?

        There is an way to prove it works honestly, just need to get into an area with the band working use an app like this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery

         

        Then you would have your proof

        • magenta4350325

          48. Re: Oreo update for the  LG V30?

          In response to Jessica...XDA forums is not legitimate? Wow shows how little you know 99.9% of android developers are on XDA forums. Do you work for LG or T mobile in marketing or something?

          Maybe that post on XDA is wrong, maybe not, seems all websites have little inconsistencies in them especially LG and T Mobile. ATT has gorrilla glass 4? yeah they made those ones special with old glass just for ATT? Get a clue .

           

          I already said band 71 is not the issue here. The lack of timely updates is unacceptable . What don't you get? It's not about band 71,

           

          Updates for the V30 are not happening as they should they are pathetically slow and we don't get monthly security patches. Your Band 71 BS is just smokescreen to feebly try to misdirect the conversation away from the real issue.

           

          Forums should not have secret employee's trying to lead the conversation in a brand positive direction.

          • jesseinsfmagenta

            49. Re: Oreo update for the  LG V30?

            We can all play the name calling game here, but all it does if brings up childish defenses. I trust XDA forums for "Developing", not for press releases. They are not marketers, they are developers.

             

            Oh and about AT&T, check their SPECS page and all other sites and show me PROOF instead of FAKE news that has no legitimate proof.

             

            My original post was referring to Optimism. No one needs to get B** hurt over this. Yes I want the Oreo update but I'm not going to shout out all this negativity over a phone when there is allot more in life to enjoy.

            • magenta4350325

              50. Re: Oreo update for the  LG V30?

              I didn't call anyone a name? What are you talking about?

               

              Why are you even in this discussion you seem so happy ? You just hang on T Mobile forums and spread cheer?

              • jesseinsfmagenta

                51. Re: Oreo update for the  LG V30?

                My name is Jesse not Jessica. I'm a dude, not a gal. There is no one in this topic by the name of Jessica. I've been following this topic since it opened (for news purposes only) and said nothing until recently. So no, I don't always go around and "Spread" the cheer as you call it.

                • magenta4350325

                  52. Re: Oreo update for the  LG V30?

                  I was not making fun of your name. I thought is was like Jess. My apologies.

                  • magenta4535318

                    53. Re: Oreo update for the  LG V30?

                    T-Mobile needs to get their crap together. Not even kidding, I'm not happy about this. This is the exact reason that I will likely never buy another phone from you asshats, and likely will end up leaving you for Project Fi and a Pixel when the new one is released (I know Magenta will be too incompetant to figure out how to carry the device, yet again). LG has had the Oreo software update ready for carriers for MONTHS. All the other carriers have beat T-Mobile and the best we get is "it's on our list". Well guess what, you're beginning to get on my list... list of companies I'm looking for an alternative to. How about an ETA? How about get it done already? When we pay $800 for a device that should have come with the new version of Android to begin with, you need to bump that up on your priority list. Most recent security update was Jan 1 2018. These are pushed our to AOSP EVERY MONTH and we're now THREE MONTHS BEHIND (AGAIN). Quit half assing it and do what you're supposed to be doing. This does not reflect well upon T-Mobile, regardless of what you keep telling yourselves.

                    • enigmaco

                      54. Re: Oreo update for the  LG V30?

                      That's the price we pay for cheaper bills and goodies, some caveats have to happen.  One being slower updates.  Look at the lg v20, 18 months and they're just now "starting"  to work on oreo.  At least it's not taking you almost 2 years to receive one. This is of the areas I'm not happy with t-mobile about.  I rather not have the T-Mobile Tuesday if it meant for expedited updates.

                      • ryokecra125

                        55. Re: Oreo update for the  LG V30?

                        It doesn't matter whether you trust XDA or not. If you read the original post, found at the bottom of the post you referred to, the creator of the thread has written that it is very unlikely that the LG V30 US998 has 600 MHz, as it's FCC filing shows no such thing. And I'm not a developer, just a V30+ owner, but completely new spectrum is important to test, especially when it is unique to one carrier. That being said, too much blame is being placed on LG, who has already completed development of Oreo, and the entire hassle is coming because of T-Mobile. I know that for Note 8, people were complaining so much, despite the fact that it came out today, two days after Verizon and AT&T. It's important to remember the carrier variation present. Now I do hate how some people are excusing incompetence on T-Mobile's part so lamely. For example, the update status page couldn't possibly be right, as we know that LG is done developing Oreo with it's UI. It's not LG's fault that this hasn't been pushed out, nor does it give preference to larger carriers. The carriers hold the Android phonemakers hostage, not the other way around. Most likely that T-Mobile is testing the smoothest experience for all the bloatwa0re that will still be there when Oreo comes around. This is really sad as DT, has, as another contributor noted, now allowing pure Android from the manufacturer, with direct OEM OTAs. All in all, what I'm saying is, you have to be considerate of both the OEM and carrier, but remember that the OEM has the software from day one, it's the carrier that causes most problems. Also, I think your response to jesseinsfmagenta was I'll warranted. I'm pretty sure the only people with interests related to T-Mobile or their phones are T-Mobile empleyees, and their usernames begin with a Tmo_. Keep this in mind next time when deciding whether or not someone has T-Mobiles interests at hand.

                        • tidbits

                          56. Re: Oreo update for the  LG V30?

                          ryokecra125 wrote:

                           

                          It doesn't matter whether you trust XDA or not. If you read the original post, found at the bottom of the post you referred to, the creator of the thread has written that it is very unlikely that the LG V30 US998 has 600 MHz, as it's FCC filing shows no such thing. And I'm not a developer, just a V30+ owner, but completely new spectrum is important to test, especially when it is unique to one carrier. That being said, too much blame is being placed on LG, who has already completed development of Oreo, and the entire hassle is coming because of T-Mobile. I know that for Note 8, people were complaining so much, despite the fact that it came out today, two days after Verizon and AT&T. It's important to remember the carrier variation present. Now I do hate how some people are excusing incompetence on T-Mobile's part so lamely. For example, the update status page couldn't possibly be right, as we know that LG is done developing Oreo with it's UI. It's not LG's fault that this hasn't been pushed out, nor does it give preference to larger carriers. The carriers hold the Android phonemakers hostage, not the other way around. Most likely that T-Mobile is testing the smoothest experience for all the bloatwa0re that will still be there when Oreo comes around. This is really sad as DT, has, as another contributor noted, now allowing pure Android from the manufacturer, with direct OEM OTAs. All in all, what I'm saying is, you have to be considerate of both the OEM and carrier, but remember that the OEM has the software from day one, it's the carrier that causes most problems. Also, I think your response to jesseinsfmagenta was I'll warranted. I'm pretty sure the only people with interests related to T-Mobile or their phones are T-Mobile empleyees, and their usernames begin with a Tmo_. Keep this in mind next time when deciding whether or not someone has T-Mobiles interests at hand.

                          Carriers would rather not sell devices, and testified to that fact.  OEM's want carriers to pay for options, but in Europe it's actually illegal to do so.  One reason why they have all the options, and also more expensive BEFORE VAT tax. 

                           

                          OEM's can decide just like Apple and say we'll do it this way and like it, but they don't because they love the money upfront they get.  The reason why Apple, and Google update their OS is simply because they have residual income.  They get money from their respective app, movie, books, music stores.  OEM's don't get residual income so they don't put a lot of resources on older devices, or even updating.  T-Mobile puts the least amount of bloatware onto the phones. 

                           

                          FYI - There's a lot of court cases where OEM's , and even Google/Sony AOSP project that contradicts most of everything you just said.

                          • ryokecra125

                            57. Re: Oreo update for the  LG V30?

                            Carriers would not rather sell devices! Are you mad? Do you know how much

                            they make on agreements with companies for preinstalling apps and data

                            collection systems? Could you refer to specific instances of OEMs. I don't

                            think you understand how these carrier contracts work, so here we go. OEMs

                            build phones. In the US, the average consumer doesn't buy unlocked, only

                            through their carrier. So OEMs will move Heaven and Earth in order to get

                            these carriers on board. That means giving them control of minimal software

                            characteristics, stock apps, and total control on software deployment.

                            Again, total control of software deployment. Like I said before, the

                            Android update goes like this: Google, AOSP, OEM, Carrier. LG has obviously

                            finished Oreo, that's why it's on the other carriers.

                            Also, I don't know ow if you're spinning things out of thin air, but Apple

                            and Google don't support updates fast because that have "residual cash" it

                            is because they build their softwares for themselves. Each of them have 1

                            year to develop the next OS. They only have to test a few devices running

                            the pure Android or iOS experience. The OEMs are building off of a

                            pre-existing OS and given less time. I do agree that it is preferable for

                            any company to sell a new phone than to update the old one. But they are

                            accountable. No one will buy an unsupported device. T-Mobile has nothing to

                            lose, as even if someone will switch OEMs, they won't switch carriers

                            unless for a service issue. Nevertheless, residual cash?! Seriously?,

                            that's a new one for me.

                            Please also refer to the specific cases of Carriers testifying as first

                            mentioned, and the cases of OEMs forcing carriers to pay for "options", the

                            European law that forbids it, the EU VAT legislation you were referring to

                            and the Google/Sony court cases that apparently negate everything I said.

                            Thanks

                            • tidbits

                              58. Re: Oreo update for the  LG V30?

                              ryokecra125 wrote:

                               

                              Carriers would not rather sell devices! Are you mad? Do you know how much

                              they make on agreements with companies for preinstalling apps and data

                              collection systems? Could you refer to specific instances of OEMs. I don't

                              think you understand how these carrier contracts work, so here we go. OEMs

                              build phones. In the US, the average consumer doesn't buy unlocked, only

                              through their carrier. So OEMs will move Heaven and Earth in order to get

                              these carriers on board. That means giving them control of minimal software

                              characteristics, stock apps, and total control on software deployment.

                              Again, total control of software deployment. Like I said before, the

                              Android update goes like this: Google, AOSP, OEM, Carrier. LG has obviously

                              finished Oreo, that's why it's on the other carriers.

                              Also, I don't know ow if you're spinning things out of thin air, but Apple

                              and Google don't support updates fast because that have "residual cash" it

                              is because they build their softwares for themselves. Each of them have 1

                              year to develop the next OS. They only have to test a few devices running

                              the pure Android or iOS experience. The OEMs are building off of a

                              pre-existing OS and given less time. I do agree that it is preferable for

                              any company to sell a new phone than to update the old one. But they are

                              accountable. No one will buy an unsupported device. T-Mobile has nothing to

                              lose, as even if someone will switch OEMs, they won't switch carriers

                              unless for a service issue. Nevertheless, residual cash?! Seriously?,

                              that's a new one for me.

                              Please also refer to the specific cases of Carriers testifying as first

                              mentioned, and the cases of OEMs forcing carriers to pay for "options", the

                              European law that forbids it, the EU VAT legislation you were referring to

                              and the Google/Sony court cases that apparently negate everything I said.

                              Thanks

                              I am not going to search through court documents for you.  One of the things we learned and why contracts ended up having diminishing returns instead of the flat fee was some of those lawsuits.  The way we are currently thinking are during the days of BREW and not Android.  There's a lot of there if you looked for yourself and stop with the hyperbole regurgitating what "Online media" tells you the past 6 years.  Europe has exactly the same thing we do except for 2 pieces of law, and have different expectations after the first 3 years of Androids life and look who has better support?  They do, and we keep thinking the same thing.

                               

                              What company would continue to put money into something that isn't generating profits?  Apple, and Google make money off their respective OSes through their stores.  That gives them incentive to keep coding.  Do you really think they'd put the amount of resources they do if it wasn't profitable?  OEMs don't get a cut of that residual and make money specifically off the sale of the device.  Samsung knows this, and one of the reasons why...  They bought Tizen, and also have competing products with Apple and Google.  Samsung has the one of the worst update grades along with LG, and those are the top 3 manufacturers for market share.  So updating devices isn't all that you make it out to be.  I mean Samsung was bad updating the S, S2, S3, S4, S5, Note, Note2, Note3, Note4, and Note5 yet here they are...  Top 2 manufacturers for Smart Phones Since the Galaxy S.  Samsung sometime during the S or S2 Samsung said something in an interview that they charged for features and upgrades, but wouldn't go more into detail.  More than likely it was a NDA thing as to why and probably let out more than he should have.

                               

                              Yes carriers would rather not sell devices, but the american public expects them to as to why they carry them. It isn't rocket science as it's lost revenue the longer they hold onto devices, and the upfront cash they have to put in.  If the US public was more open about buying their devices outright and unlocked carriers wouldn't carry devices. 

                              • magenta4541182

                                59. Re: Oreo update for the  LG V30?

                                When we do get our update, will we be getting the camera AI software which LG has already stated will eventually roll out to existing V30's? The Korean models have it already.

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