Samsung Updates


    I am curious. Why is Germany getting the Samsung Galaxy S8, the S8 Plus, and the S8 Active updated to Oreo before us? Why not all at the same time? Better yet, why are we always seeming to have to wait for new Android version updates? Is it on Samsung's end? I am just curious. It seems that when paying for a premium handset, you would get top-notch update service.

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      • tidbits

        Re: Samsung Updates

        There's various factors, and here's just to name a few


        Snapdragon vs. Exynos:

        Exynos is an in house processor for Samsung so most of their development manpower would to go their own products first.  They also will have to wait for Qualcomm to have any updates for the OS before they can even start.


        Governmental, and licensing bodies:

        Each country/region has their own set of rules, and regulations.  This will make certain things take longer than others.  Sony did a project with Google a ways back and came up with the PDK because they found out this is the longest delay for any update.  They made the PDK available months in advance of any OS release and made sure they have that finished to get the ball rolling on this because the average used to be 8 months for this to be finished in some countries.



        In other countries they pay more than we do for the same product so they demand better support.  For perspective.   We paid $930 for our Note8, but in the UK it's $1,213.


        There's a lot more out there, and bloatware isn't one of them.  All carriers have it, and all regions too. It's time to let that lie go.  I have imported a lot of regional phones for specific colors, or hardware differences(bigger battery, more ram, notification lights, fingerprint sensor, etc), and every single one of them had bloatware.

          • firragol

            Re: Samsung Updates

            I couldn't agree more about the processors. In fact, that's why other countries pay more than we do in the US. Most of the world gets the higher powered Exynos processors, so they pay more. As for governmental and licensing bodies, I suppose that at times they are indeed a factor, but my experience with mobiles over the years leads me to believe that's not the case here. Samsung isn't exactly known to be quick, and T-Mobile has features that other carriers just don't have, like Wi-Fi calling. I imagine that may have something to do with it. As for bloatware, well....that's the excuse Google used to come up with the Pixel line, and from what I have heard, even they have some, so I always expect any phone from any carrier to have bloatware. Honestly, I am really just wanting someone at Samsung and or T-Mobile to cut through the BS, and just provide a solid answer. I know it takes time. I know it's near impossible to give an exact date....but a window....that IS within the realm of possibility. Hey, they could even just say something like, "We are shooting for a release between (this date) and (this date), and we'll keep you posted!" I don't feel like this is too much to ask. Thank you for your response, Tidbits! Be well, all!

              • tidbits

                Re: Samsung Updates

                The Sony AOSP project reports that and if you anyone noticed after that project Google stop nagging about carriers being delays for updates. During that project the average time carriers got involved was 2 weeks with 1 month being the longest. We are talking something completely different from brew if that's from your experience.


                With the PDK introduced 4 years ago roughly greatly shortened update times. If you do any changes to Bluetooth or even Wi-Fi you need to get tested to comply with licensing. If you do a search for the FCC numbers you can find new testing for any major update to ensure they comply with regulations. With the PDK you can do all of this before Google release the newest Android version. Over doing it after Google releases the code and OEM start from scratch.



                The problem only Samsung or OEMs in general can give a ball park, but then it comes down to people who will treat estimates and ballpark dates as promises and throw tantrums like 4 year olds because they didn'tget an update yet. You can even see it with Nexus/Pixel line. I haven't gotten XYZ update and Google released it 3 days ago yada yada yada. Then they blame the carrier they are on for not valid reason. Over the past 8 years or so there are even lawsuits because of a missed estimated date, and even if it is frivolous they still spend time and resources for OEMs to deal with it.  So they say nothing because it's not worth it.

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