Been with you a couple months, and my wife and I are generally pleased with the service. Save one thing: Coverage isn't very good in and around our home. But I'll leave that as a topic for another discussion. What I'd like to say here is more along the lines of a suggestion on a related topic.
There are several good handsets that have hit the market, lately, that would work fine on T-Mobile's network, despite sometimes spotty coverage, save one problem: No WiFi calling. In particular, I'm thinking of Motorola's Moto X and the budget Moto G, and Google's Nexus 5.
I suggest T-Mobile seriously consider an app customers can load to give unlocked handsets compatible with T-Mobile's network that capability.
I have the same request. I'd like to use T-Mobile's wifi calling with the Moto G.
It's not as simple as loading an app to use T-Mobile's Wi-Fi calling. This feature is built into the phone's OS. This allows the user to use the T-Mobile issued phone number to communicate via Wi-Fi calling instead of having to use another number like you would with Google Voice and GrooVe IP.
I thought that was probably the case, 21stnow. But they're going to have to Find A Way. The same problem exists with iPhones. So now many of the newer, most popular or most highly-rated devices have it not: iPhones (all of them), Nexus 5 and Moto X. The Moto G will be released on Dec. 2 and, by all accounts, is a killer phone at its price point.
For some people: Lack of WiFi calling is a show-stopper. As I alluded to earlier: I think it may be, for us, because, despite the fact T-Mobile's coverage map claims we should have "good" coverage: We do not.
Giving (potential) customers the choice of: 1. Handsets they don't want or 2. Non-coverage, is not going to be a recipe for success, going forward, I should think. It will become an issue for us. These Sensation 4Gs we have won't last forever, particularly since it would appear no further updates are forthcoming, so we're eventually going to want to replace them. Who knows what'll be available when that happens, but T-Mobile hasn't a single handset, currently, that I like.
Anyway: It was just a suggestion. They can either do it or they cannot. I'm hoping they can.
@21stnow: We realize that T-Mobile built the feature into the os. The request is to split it into an installable app. My reasoning is the same as semijim, which is that t-mobile's service is sketchy, at best, at home. Wifi calling, on the phone I have, works absolutely great. I would like to get a non-tmobile handset (the Moto G) which does not have the wifi addition in the os, for my son.
Until the Android and other operating system can allow access to low level hardware to read the sim to user installable applications that won't happen.
The newer wifi calling requires authentication from the hardware of the sim that is not available at the application layer of the operating system.
Ok, I understand what you guys are saying now. I actually took a few minutes to do a little googling and found it spelled out fairly plainly under the "SIM Card Access" section of this document: http://source.android.com/devices/tech/security/#personal-information
An interesting note is that one of the custom ROM chefs wrote (or ported) a flashable module to add this feature to the HTC HD2 running Android. Obviously this isn't an installable app, but it is at least partly why I was thinking it might be possible.
That was the older gan based Wi-Fi calling in that device that is being phased out.
That had many more connection and quality issues then the newer ims based version.
Judging by the number of official tmo_ answers (zero), the issue is not their priority. For me, lack of WiFi calling is a show-stopper because of T-Mobile's sketchy coverage and bad penetration of 1700+ waves into the buildings (ATT's 850 band has a leg up). For T-Mobile, lack of WiFi calling in iPhone is obviously not a show-stopper.
They won't. There's various reasons for it, and a few people have explained it. There needs to be framework changes, and manufacturers don't do them as some of these changes may affect over governmental bodies, and update processes in those countries.
Wonder if anybody has tried this to get wifi calling on their unlocked android handset (like Nexus 4 or 5)
droidhaxors (dot) wordpress (dot) com /2012/10/27/adding-orange-T-Mobile-ee-uma-to-cyanogenmod-9/
That is the old gan method of wifi calling and is being phased out.
Most of the new library files do not support this feature anymore as the manufacturers of the devices are leaning toward SIP and other similar services.
I'm under the impression that TMo is using the Kineto GAN (UMA) method for their wifi calling (that's what's used on my sons TMo branded HTC phone). The Nexus 5 does support SIP, it does not support the current TMo GAN (UMA) wifi calling. Isn't this thread asking about the TMo wifi calling that is done through the Kenito method?
@w3wilkes: Not sure about Kineto (Kenito?), but per Generic Access Network - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia , T-Mobile's "Wi-Fi Calling" *is* GAN (UMA) over 802.11.
The method of adding "Wi-Fi Calling" to Cianogen in your link Adding Orange / T-Mobile / EE Featured UMA to CyanogenMod 9. | DroidHaxors is well over my head. I can install an app all right, but rooting the phone / installing a third party ROM / performing a 10-step procedure with command line operations is beyond my comfort zone .
Kineto was the name of the company that worked on the original version of Wi-Fi calling for android is all.
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