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NOKIA LUMIA 1520

konfuesious

Hey there everyone.  The news on the web is that T-Mobile is not interested in getting the new Nokia line up, specifically the Lumia 1520.  I am a recent convert to T-Mobile from AT&T and was expecting that Lumia 925 might have a successor and it would be the Lumia 1520.  Someone else asked the same question to the Moderators and their reply was the usual, "we are listening to you" which means that they seem not to care.  I want to start a petition or movement to get T-Mobile fired up about this device.  Its the best Windows Phone yet and possibly the last of Nokia.  I don't understand why T-Mobile would not think this phone wouldn't sell.  The Lumia 521 is selling like hot cakes and I usnderstand the price is an issue, but T-Mobile does a better job with their payment program than the other idiot, AT&T.  Look at the sales of Samsung Note 3, its doing much better than the Note 2.  Maybe T-Mobile is looking for customers who just care about the cheaper services plans than phones.  Its just frustrating to see the second GSM carrier not to stock the latest Windows Phones.  And this is my personal opinion and I am sure many of you will agree that this OS is better and smoother than Android or iOS (I have used them both since 1st gen iPhone and Samsung Galaxy).  Lets get after T-Mobile and get them to stock the Lumia 1520.  Thanks.

  • 1. Re: NOKIA LUMIA 1520
    emancipated

    See

    Http://www.t-mobile.com/bring-your-own-phone.html

     

    Option 1?

    Http://www.microsoftstore.com

    Select the Nokia Lumina 1520 with the "no contract" option.

     

    Option 2?

    Http://www.negrielectronics.com

    Select the Nokia Lumina 1520  with the AT&T option.  The Unlocked version makes sense to order, but I am unclear if it is the U.S. GSM version, RM-893, using LTE bands ...

     

    Both options require you to get the phone unlocked by AT&T. 

  • 2. Re: NOKIA LUMIA 1520
    konfuesious

    @emancipated

    I understand the solutions, but getting an unlocked phone does not give you the full T-Mobile experience.  Like for example, the customer service probably will not help beyond their scope because the phone was bought outside of their network, MMS and APN needs to be changed manually and most of the time you have to do it more than once, no WIFI calling app on unlocked phones.  These are just some of the issues with bringing unlocked phones to a carrier.  What I want is a complete satisfactory experience from T-Mobile.  At the moment I am using the Lumia 521 and I love it, but its slow and some of the apps don't work on it since its not Windows 8.  I am just saying that they (T-Mobile) does not need to buy millions of units, just order or preorder a small amount and see what the demand is like, obviously the demand is high on AT&T since they already ran out of stock in store and online, and some of the preorders were back ordered as well.  Thank you for your time though.

  • 3. Re: NOKIA LUMIA 1520
    sneakymoose

    Lumia 521 does run the Windows Phone 8 operating system, just like the Lumia 1520. Some apps might not be compatible with the 521 due to hardware differences between it and some of the other WP8 devices: lower RAM, no front facing camera, lower screen resolution, no NFC capability.

  • 4. Re: NOKIA LUMIA 1520
    konfuesious

    @sneakymoose

    you are absolutely correct and i am wrong, I apologize.  Lumia 521 does run OS 8.0.  But you definitely hit the nail on its head, not having those options makes a the Windows Phone experience not a thorough one.  Its like using those cheap android handsets as a PAYG service.

  • 5. Re: NOKIA LUMIA 1520
    21stnow

    Nokia and AT&T negotiated an exclusive deal for AT&T to sell the Nokia Lumia 1520.  It wasn't a situation where T-Mobile was "not interested" in carrying the Lumia 1520.  I sincerely doubt that T-Mobile is willing and able to beat the amount of money that AT&T will put down for the exclusive rights for the phone.

     

    The Lumia 1520 wouldn't be considered a successor to the Lumia 925.  It is in a separate class of devices, much like the Lumia 1020 is.  The successor to the Lumia 925 will probably also have a model number that starts with '9'.

  • 6. Re: NOKIA LUMIA 1520
    konfuesious

    @21stnow

    I understand that is not a successor to the 925.  The whole point of my original post was to gauge interest for the Lumia 1520, which I know exists more than what I see on the forums and also to let T-Mobile know that there are niche customers that would like to purchase and use a 1520 on T-Mobile or a variant.  I understand that T-Mobile is not as loaded as $t&T but they got the Lumia 925 didn't they?  I am sure they can work out a deal for the 1520 variant.

  • 7. Re: NOKIA LUMIA 1520
    21stnow

    The Lumia 925 was never an exclusive device.  Comparing those phone releases to each other is comparing apples and oranges-they're not the same.

     

    Realistically, the demand for the Lumia 1520 isn't that high.  Looking at the interest that I see in the Lumia 1520 forums on WP Central and considering that the forums have a worldwide audience, I doubt that the number of T-Mobile US customers that are interested in the device numbers in the six-figures.  I wish for Nokia's sake that it were different (I'm a stockholder), but the large phone market is lead by Samsung's Note series at the moment.  The Lumia 1520 does nothing to threaten Samsung's position there.  Sony is a bigger threat than Nokia is.

  • 8. Re: NOKIA LUMIA 1520
    viper1970

    I have been perusing this forum trying to gauge interest in the 1520, so heres the deal. Negri Electronics sells the AT&T variant which has the 1700 AWS bands, both LTE and 3G. Maybe this was Nokia getting around the exclusivity by including the AWS bands. Only drawback is that they are locked. I will most likely call AT&T and see if they will unlock the phone. Good thing is per their website, if it is paid in full they WILL unlock the phone, which usually takes 48 hrs but could run up to 5 days. Just hit up Negri's website, they cost 630 bucks and come in yellow, red, black, and white colors. I hope this information helps. i'll be getting one on the 15th!

  • 9. Re: NOKIA LUMIA 1520
    21stnow

    AT&T probably won't unlock it until six months after the release date because it is an exclusive device.

     

    Edited to add:  You also have to be a current AT&T customer or a past AT&T customer with an account number in order for them to unlock the device.

  • 10. Re: NOKIA LUMIA 1520
    emancipated

    21stnow wrote:

    "AT&T probably won't unlock it until six months after the release date because it is an exclusive device".

     

    ~ Incorrect

    11/26/13 17:59 hr pst unlock request, case number

    11/27/13 11:51 hr pst unlock code received

     

    Nov. 26th the AT&T person gave me the case number.  She suggested AT&T may respond by Wednesday December 4th.

     

    Nov. 27th AT&T email arrived with the unlock code.

     

    The government requirement is that "subsidized devices" be paid off in full before an unlock code is provided.

     

    The Nokia Lumia 1520 is a nice++ device.

  • 11. Re: NOKIA LUMIA 1520
    21stnow

    I'm glad that you got unlocked.  I asked AT&T specifically about this device earlier this week and they said that they wouldn't unlock it during the exclusivity period.  That was also in line with the experience that I had with the Lumia 900.

  • 12. Re: NOKIA LUMIA 1520
    emancipated

    Maybe it was the AT&T online Chat Session. I wrote "bought from the Microsoft Store" and NOT a Subsidized Device.  The magical IMEI number probably verified that too.

  • 13. Re: NOKIA LUMIA 1520
    wildrisc

    I left Verizon three years ago for T-Mobile because "V" wasn't interested in Windows Phone.  It seems T-Mobile is losing their interest and AT&T is pushing the envelope.  It's peculiar when you visit a T-Mobile store that all the employees are using the Galaxy Note because of its size, but T-Mobile won't embrace the "phablet" on all platforms.  I don't need a phone with a million apps, I just want one with business reliability and the Windows Phone 8 accomplishes this, but I want a phone with a display larger than 4.5".  T-Mobile needs to wake up to the fact that they need to offer a little variety in their hardware on all platforms except Apple.  Those users are quite content with a phone that's hardware changes very little from generation to generation.  I wasn't thrilled with Nokia, but I have to admit the 925 is a very nice piece of hardware with some slick built-in apps.  I'm just looking for its bigger brother.

  • 14. Re: NOKIA LUMIA 1520
    konfuesious

    Starting in July of 2013 I have been going to my local neighborhood T-Mobile store because I was curious about the windows platform and also wanted to play with the 925.  I would go atleast once every two weeks and I too noticed that all the sales associates would have a Samsung brand phone, which I don't care but I would see the Nokia display empty everytime.  Meaning all the customers that were there were either looking at the upcoming or already there iphone or the android platform.  I would stand there for about 10 mins or so and play with the device and not one time an employee has come up to me and asked "may i help you with anything or did you have a question about this phone?"  Its only when I would ponder around the android platform or am about to walk out they would say something.  Its truly sad because I did my research for the phone and the service before I switched from AT&T this November and I love their service don't get me wrong but lack of higher end Windows phone (which I prefer over iOS and Android) would make me go back or go prepaid on AT&T.

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