9 Replies Latest reply: Aug 6, 2013 5:50 PM by qubitcadet RSS

GSM 1900MHz vs UMTS 1900MHz ?

undroid

Hi,
I'm trying to buy a smartphone from an online retailer and order T-Mobile SIM card separately(Simple Choice) so I wanted to know what the difference between GSM 1900MHz and UMTS 1900MHz is ? The website named Gsmarena has phone specifications and they have a filter with GSM and UMTS options so I wanted to know which (GSM or UMTS?) 1900MHz frequency does my phone need to have in order to work with T-Mobile 42Mbps?

I don't need a phone with LTE support sine its not available here in San Francisco.I just want to have 2G,3G and HSPA+ (42Mbps) speeds.

All I know is that my phone needs to support 1700MHz,2100MHz and 1900MHz.Correct me if I'm wrong or if I'm missing something.

Thank you.

  • 1. Re: GSM 1900MHz vs UMTS 1900MHz ?
    tidbits

    GSM is 2G, UMTS is 3G.

  • 2. Re: GSM 1900MHz vs UMTS 1900MHz ?
    undroid

    Thanks I didn't know that.

    I heard T-Mobile is moving some of the HSPDA+ network to 1900MHz band.Does that 1900MHz band have to be GSM or UMTS(HSDPA) for it to work at 42Mbps?

    For example , one phone is advertised as GSM 850/900/1800/1900 & HSDPA 1700/2100 .In this case if I buy this phone and T-Mobile moves the 42Mbps network to 1900MHz frequency in my area, will I have 42Mbps service or does my phone have to support HSDPA 1900Mhz instead of GSM 1900Mhz?

     

    Another frequency question.

    Samsung Galaxy S III mini (model i8190) is advertised as GSM 850/900/1800/1900 and HSDPA 900/1900/2100.Will it work properly on 42Mbps network?

    Thank you !

  • 3. Re: GSM 1900MHz vs UMTS 1900MHz ?
    nearmsp

    t-mobile's bulk of the network is AWS 1700/2100. Their PCS 1900 Mhz is spotty and sparse. Do not try to save a few bucks and buy a brick.

  • 4. Re: GSM 1900MHz vs UMTS 1900MHz ?
    magnetar

    First of all, for T-Mobile's HSPA+ 42 (AWS) to work you need both 1700 and 2100 frequencies because 1700 is used for sending and 2100 is use for receiving, if you don't have both it won't work at all. Second, T-Mobile's AWS 1700/2100 and HSPA+ 21 (PCS) 1900 networks operate concurrently, the PCS was refarmed from the edge (2G) 1900.

  • 5. Re: GSM 1900MHz vs UMTS 1900MHz ?
    undroid

    Is AWS basically the same as HSDPA? None of the advertised phones is mentioned to have "AWS".They are advertised as HSDPA 850/1700/1900/2100 e.t.c

  • 6. Re: GSM 1900MHz vs UMTS 1900MHz ?
    magnetar

    AWS for T-Mobile is also know as UMTS band IV. Here is a link to Wikipedia with a list of phones with AWS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of _AWS_devices

  • 7. Re: GSM 1900MHz vs UMTS 1900MHz ?
    qubitcadet

    i was also going to buy from online Chinese Phone (cp) either amazon , ebay, ahappydeal.com etc. but not sure if the cp will work on tmobile (tmo) in the city of Los Angeles and surrounding LA county area.

    Can you tell me which online url you bought successfuly from and their specs for the phone. I wanted to get a phalblet,or tablet phone combo with dual sim, qual or quad core,etc. Have you succcessfully got the cp to work on tmo? I bought the sim reg. from tmo directly. I have contacted the tech support at the cp sites but they didnot answer my questions nor give much confidence. All they said was donot worry it will work on tmo.

    will the following exmaple from oneline work on tmo?

    thanks.

    http://www.ahappydeal.com/product-137118.html

    Specification:

     

    Product Notes:

     

    1. Download your favorite apps through the Google Play Store or Market installed.
    2. Note: This Android tablet is designed only to work with the current Android OS installed in it. Any alterations such as upgrades or flashing a newer version will void the warranty.
    3. The stated ROM amount shows the maximum available ROM with nothing installed. However, the Android OS and pre-installed software from the manufacturer will occupy some of this ROM. The available ROM on the device.

     

     

    Android 4.0

    1024 x 600

    7 inch

    3100mAh

    0.3 MP Front
    2.0 MP Back

    WiFi

    HDMI

    WCDMA

    GPS

    Phone


     

    HighLights:
    • CPU: MTK8377 Dual Core Cortex A9 1.2GHz
    • OS: Google Android 4.0.4
    • RAM: 1GB DDR3
    • Internal storage capacity: 8GB
    • External storage: Mini SD card (up to 32GB) - not included
    • Screen: 7 inch hifi TFT LCD capacitive multi-touch panel 1024 x 600 (WSVGA)
    • Front camera: 0.3 Megapixel
    • Back camera: 2.0 Megapixel
    • Flash: Flash 10.3
    • With GPS function
    • Analog TV supported
    • 3G and Bluetooth function supported
    • Support Video Calls Online

     

    Network

    Wi-Fi: WiFi 802.11 b/g/n Wireless internet
    Support 3G (WCDMA)
    Frequency: GSM900/1800MHz WCDMA 850/1900/2100MHz
    3G Web Surfing: Yes
    GPS: Yes
    Bluetooth: Yes

    ConnectivityTF card slot
    2 x SIM card slot
    Mini USB host
    Mini HDMI slot
    3.5mm Headphone jack
    DC jack
    Media FormatsAudio format: MP3, WAV, AAC, AMR, OGG
    Video format: 1080P, AAC, OGG, WAV, AMR, MP3
    Picture format: JPG, BMP, PNG, GIF
    MS Office format: Word, Excel, PPT
    E-book: TXT
    LanguagesEnglish, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, Dutch, German (Note: If you need any specific language other than English, you must leave us a message when you checkout)
    GeneralBattery Type: 3100mAh Rechargeable Battery
    Battery / Run Time (up to): 5 hours video playing time
    AC adapter: 100-240V, 5V 2A
    Material of back cover: Plastic
    G-sensor: Yes
    Skype: Yes
    Youtube: Yes
    Speakers: Yes
    MIC: Yes
    Other APPs3G, WiFi, TV, GPS, Bluetooth, Phone, SMS, People, Browser, Calendar, Camera, Music, Video, Calculator....
    DimensionsProduct weight: 0.317 kg
    Package weight: 0.700 kg
    Product size (L x W x H): 19.5 x 12.3 x 1.2 cm
    Package size (L x W x H): 22.3 x 14.5 x 6.9 cm
    Package Contents

    1 x PLX 705 7 inch Android 4.0 Tablet PC
    1 x USB Cable
    1 x Charger
    1 x Earphones

  • 8. Re: GSM 1900MHz vs UMTS 1900MHz ?
    smplyunprdctble

    A 7-inch phone?

     

    I once joked that my Nexus7 was my new phone as I held it up to my ear... but, SERIOUSLY?

  • 9. Re: GSM 1900MHz vs UMTS 1900MHz ?
    qubitcadet

    did  you buy ahappydeal.com phone and can you tell me did it work on tmo ? and the wifi? any problems with thephone? or did you buy from another url or on amazon for comp. Chinese PHone? thanks any info would help me buy a andoid.