agreed, painless installation although it does "stall" at 100% on a few steps leaving one to wonder if things are working.
End result, installation took about 25 minutes using Wifi for download. Phone is up and appears stable, will take a few days of use to know what has improved, but no additional bloatware or anything like that.
The screen showing what's new in the update was very similar to this one:
The KB articles referenced there all lead to this page:
thanks sneakymoose, my fingers were too quick to get back to the home screen and test it apparently.
now to see how it sits on my desk (and if it does its reboot thing).
First off, I pay for data service to USE it! There is no need to connect my mobile phone to WiFi unless I had no data coverage and desperate for connectivity.
Coming from the Android side of the house it was nice to download everything using my data plan as I expected. I was initially able to download maps with data when I first got this device and then issues surfaced and the dreaded call to tech support and their master reset solution.
Since then I had to connect to WiFi for any map download and any application that was maybe 25MB. Wow! What is this? An ipwn on at&t?!.
And to top it off, I CAN'T get an OTA update using the data network I'm paying for! It's bad enough they cripple you on an UNLIMITED data plan (after going over the magical unlimited number) with speeds so slow, it's essentially the same as pulling the plug on you. It's just enough for texting but who cares since I care about music and video streaming, and real web sites.
This is C-R-A-P T-Mobile!
I'm not sure why you're unable to download the 8X software & firmware update over the air. I was able to do that with no problem (I had no WiFi connection when I updated mine).
Regarding the app and map downloads -- this is the way it's always been on Windows Phone. Apps larger than 50 megabytes may only be downloaded over WiFi (or, for older Windows Phones, there used to also be an option to download through Zune PC software). It was not a T-Mobile decision:
By the way, I just checked to see how this works on Android. The Android size limit was originally 25 MB (total, regardless of whether it was cellular or WiFi). Then in 2010 that changed to 50 MB (total size limit).
Nine months ago, it was changed to a 50 MB app limit, with up to two expansion files that are 2 GB each, for a total of just over 4 GB.
That was a limitation imposed on developers for .apk sizes and not a network cap by the carrier. I think you're confusing the issue.
I started with the G1 when it came out and have never ever been asked to use WiFi to download anything, especialy OTA updates.
It's bad when a carrier advertises they have unlimited data but actually caps you to the point you can't effectively use the network. What's worse is they claim OTA updates and they won't let you use the network you're paying for.
I don't know what network cap you're referring to. Like I said, I downloaded the OS and firmware updates for my 8X over the air. I also download the vast majority of app updates and initial installs over the air.
If you are unable to do this on your 8X, then maybe there is a problem with your handset or account/SIM configuration.
I only referenced the Windows Phone and Android app size limits because you mentioned that you've been unable to download apps over 25 MB from your 8X, except over Wi-Fi. So I pointed out that Windows Phone OS sets a hard limit for app downloads over cellular at 50 MB, and Android sets an APK size limit at 50 MB regardless of download mechanism (with the newer exception of the separate app expansion files). If you're phone is refusing to download via cellular an app from the WP Store that is below the 50 MB size threshold, then you may want to ask T-Mobile for help to get that straightened out.
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