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  • 30. Re: Nokia Lumia 920 to T-Mobile.

    Yeah, actually I thought that the HTC 8X didn't support the HSPA+ network, but it does. It also supports LTE. So I just decided to go with the 8X on Tmobile. When we switch over to LTE, I can still use my phone on that network

  • 31. Re: Nokia Lumia 920 to T-Mobile.
    philyew

    I can't see any specs so far which specify which LTE bands will be supported on the HTC 8X. It will need to support band 4 for it to work on the TM deployment of LTE when it comes.

     

    The good news is that it does support HSDPA on the 1900 mHz band, according to gsmarena.com. Until recently HTC's support for UMTS (WCDMA) on that band was patchy to say the least.

  • 32. Re: Nokia Lumia 920 to T-Mobile.

    The harsh truth is that those who hope for Nokia Lumia 920 on T-Mobile have to wait at least six months, probably 1-2 years depending on your locations. It is not merely the carrier's decision, it is the hardware compatibility which is set in stone already. The phone is not compatible with the current T-Mobile 3G at the 1700MHz. It is sad but simple as that. The semi-good news is that the phone is compatible with the refarmed 3G/HSPA+ network, but the service is simply not available for vast majority of T-Mobile customers. Despite some projections pointing to the end of the year, I don't believe it. It is going to take a minimum of one more year to reach 50% of the T-Mobile US markets, and two years to reach 80%. Will T-Mobile's LTE/4G become widely available earlier than that? Again, I doubt it.

     

    The same story goes with iPhone 5.

  • 33. Re: Nokia Lumia 920 to T-Mobile.
    philyew

    You seem to be confusing two timetables here. The first involves enabling UMTS on the 1900 mHz band and TM have said that they will have that program completed by the end of the year. If you follow discussions in the iPhone forum, you will see that there are accelerating reports of 3G/HSPA+ service being detected on iPhones. There are reports now from around half the states.

     

    Nothing formal has been announced about any locations, but it is clear that TM are starting with major markets and will have substantial infrastructure capable of delivering 3G/HSPA+ to non-TM devices such as the iPhone and Lumia 920 available over the coming weeks.

     

    TM's customer base is concentrated into markets in the major metro areas, so there is little doubt that they will deliver the service to a large section of their user population in the timeframe they have announced.

     

    The key point to note is that it doesn't require all the re-farming to be completed before users accessing converted towers can enjoy the improvement.

     

    The second timetable is certainly more long-term and involves the deployment of release 10 LTE hardware using the AWS band that has been vacated by the re-farming exercise. TM have said that exercise will begin in 2013 and they have stated some targets for how many markets will be served within two years of the announcement, which came in February 2012:

     

    http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/ReinvigoratedChallengerStrategy

     

    Since the LTE program is set for 2013, we have nothing but words that they intend to continue to achieve those goals, but as far as the re-farming program is concerned, we have very real evidence that they are moving ahead with the exercise and, as yet, we have no reason to think they will fail to achieve their end-of-year target.

     

    ximalaya wrote:

     

    The harsh truth is that those who hope for Nokia Lumia 920 on T-Mobile have to wait at least six months, probably 1-2 years depending on your locations. It is not merely the carrier's decision, it is the hardware compatibility which is set in stone already. The phone is not compatible with the current T-Mobile 3G at the 1700MHz. It is sad but simple as that. The semi-good news is that the phone is compatible with the refarmed 3G/HSPA+ network, but the service is simply not available for vast majority of T-Mobile customers. Despite some projections pointing to the end of the year, I don't believe it. It is going to take a minimum of one more year to reach 50% of the T-Mobile US markets, and two years to reach 80%. Will T-Mobile's LTE/4G become widely available earlier than that? Again, I doubt it.

     

    The same story goes with iPhone 5.

  • 34. Re: Nokia Lumia 920 to T-Mobile.
  • 35. Re: Nokia Lumia 920 to T-Mobile.
    21stnow

    We used to pay those domestic roaming fees in the US (over 10 years ago), if the customer had a regional cell plan like I did.

  • 36. Re: Nokia Lumia 920 to T-Mobile.
    philyew

    Not so long ago, it would seem...

     

    The attached document, last amended in February, refers to the existence of legacy regional roaming plans even now!

     

    http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-3534

  • 37. Re: Nokia Lumia 920 to T-Mobile.
    21stnow

    Yeah, now that I think about it, it was less than 10 years ago (2004) that I had a regional plan, too.

  • 38. Re: Nokia Lumia 920 to T-Mobile.
    cell14

    Actually, you can see the same problem with international roaming. Especially in European countries you pay outrages roaming fees to the same provider operating in different countries, their lame excuse is that all the subsidiaries are" independent" and thus charging full roaming fees to each other which is a total baloney ( yes they operate independently but it still does not cost them a penny to provide the roaming service).

    In the US, compared to 10 years ago , roaming dramatically decreased. If you are on ATT or TM prepaid, you cannot roam at all, and generally all major carriers reduced roaming by either buying out the roaming partners or canceling the roaming agreements. Where I live we have vast areas with no TMO coverage while there is a strong GSM signal available- no roaming agreement.

  • 39. Re: Nokia Lumia 920 to T-Mobile.
    cell14

    Hi 21st, it's more sitting among the spectators than in the saddle most of the time- day has 24 hours.

  • 40. Re: Nokia Lumia 920 to T-Mobile.
    21stnow

    The roaming that I was referring to was intra-carrier (?) roaming, so similar to or worse than the example you gave for Europe.

     

    For example, I was a Bell Atlantic/Nynex Mobile customer.  This company operated from the southern part of Virginia up through New York (at the least, I don't remember their exact map).  I was a customer on the Mid-Atlantic regional plan.  I could place and receive calls in my "home" area (about half of VA, part of MD, all of DC and part of DE, I think) at no additional charges.  I could place calls outside of my home area, but still on the Bell Atlantic/Nynex Moble network for additional roaming charges.  I could not receive calls outside of my home area at all.

     

    I had a regional plan under AT&T Wireless for a while, too.

  • 41. Re: Nokia Lumia 920 to T-Mobile.
    cell14

    I had a regional plan with ATT wireless/later Cingular/later new ATT from 2002-2006. It worked for me because I did not travel around the US in those years.

  • 42. Re: Nokia Lumia 920 to T-Mobile.

    I too will be leaving T-Mobile if they don't get the Lumia 920. I've been a customer since 2004. Buying an unlocked phone and using it on T-Mobile's network doesn't work for me, either, since I'm pretty attached to 4g speeds.

     

    Oh well, was a nice run, T-Mobile....

  • 43. Re: Nokia Lumia 920 to T-Mobile.
    philyew

    Need for 4G is your only reason to leave? What happens if the re-farm is completed in your area and the 920 is capable of using the HSPA+ network?

  • 44. Re: Nokia Lumia 920 to T-Mobile.

    If T-Mobile gets the Lumia 920, I will stay. If I can buy an unlocked phone and still get 4g speeds, I will stay. But I'm not waiting around for three years for them to upgrade their system.

     

    I don't have loyalty to ANY company. If they can provide me with what I want, when I want, for the price I want, I will buy from them. If not, I'll go elsewhere. It's simple, really.

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