Thanks for your responses guys. I'm glad that your upgrade went well, Dan. IMHO you're one of the lucky ones. I ran the pushed Android upgrade on my previous 3g MyTouch and it dogged the phone so bad and caused so many random restarts that I had to go out and blow $400 on my present 4g MyTouch to get a working phone again. I'm not interested in going through that again less than a year later on this phone with another pushed upgrade.
I'd like to clarify that I wasn't referring to the Gingerbread firmware upgrade in my OP. I've been nagged by that notification for months already and I'm not interested in doing a hard reset on my phone to get rid of it. And after reading the MANY pages on this board about all of the problems other MyTouch 4g owners have had, I'm just not interested in taking the chance. I depend on my phone too much and it's working fine as it is.
The update I'm referring to above is some unknown 2nd "System Update" notification that was pushed to me yesterday morning. I don't see anything on this board about it yet and it gives no clue what it's for. Nor have I seen anything from anyone who has installed it yet, although I did see a 2nd post yesterday asking the same question I am. So I now have two nagging notifications in the bar all the time. I'd rather not install this 2nd update until I know what it's for and whether it requires Gingerbread first. If so, then maybe I don't need either one.
I also am aware that CarrierIQ is not on my phone (sorry, I didn't state that very well in my OP). But since TMO has officially said that they do use it (even if it's not on my particular phone), I put my opinion out there that its use should be a voluntary decision of the customer and not a hidden utility that the carriers, and possibly others, can use however and whenever they want. I'll stop yakking about the CarrierIQ issue now and stick to my original question.
Would still appreciate any info about what this 2nd non-specific "System Update" is for before I install it. Maybe a security patch? Thanks again.
I agree completely with your view of ciq. I can say it will definitely influence my next purchase. I had planned on eventually getting an Amaze but the Galaxy Nexus or Rezound look good and switching carriers would be acceptable to me in light of the takeover fiasco.
As for the latest update, I thought too late to write down what it contained before clicking ok. The first point though, was in fact, a security patch. It is strange that there is little mention of it anywhere on the web. I ran another ciq scan after the install and it still shows my phone as clean still.
I really wouldn't let the MyTouch 3G upgrade affect how you feel about them in the future. The MT3G never had any business upgrading as it barely ran what it came with. The MT4G has the juice to run Gingerbread every bit as well as it runs Froyo. And you should keep in mind that few people ever go onto a support forum to say how few problems they are having. The average person gets the update, never has and issue, and goes about their day happy with their phone. The forum is full of people with issues because that's the only people who have reason the show up here (other than us nerds and enthusiasts). For every person with problems, there are several people simply enjoying their phones.
Do not do it, one of our phones have been nothing but trouble after the upgrade. The only one phone I decided to upgrade, and it has been nothing short than a nightmare with billing, customer support, and the phone itself.
The other phone that we DID NOT update, is working just fine and none of the issues introduced with the new firmware and system upgrade.
BTW – tech support claims they cannot take the upgrade back, the only way out of it is to root your phone and install alternate software in it –- See YouTube.
We do not use the phone for texting or any data intensive issues, so we have the 200Mbyte plan. I have texting blocked, purchases on line blocked, and everything other than calling blocked. No Facebook, No Tweeter, and the little browsing we do, we do via WiFi. The data plan is used occasionally to see a movie time or a quick web search.
There is an application called smithmicrodm that continually downloads data and in ONE night downloaded 180 MEGABYTES of data at 4:30 in the morning. Therefore in less than 4 days my 200 Mb plan is consumed and the bill keeps going up and up.
Tech and customer support answer – Turn Off background Data, Turn Off Mobile Network, Turn Off Synching –I tell them I am not using any of it, but the phone keeps consuming data like there is no tomorrow.
Tech support insist on me getting unlimited data plan, because with unlimited data plan like Most T-Mobile customers have, this problem will not be apparent and will not affect my billing.
I have tried to explain to this IQ challenged people I do not need unlimited data plan and therefore I signed up for the 200 Mb plan, but they insist that if I do not want to see the phone chewing through 200 Megs of data in my first week of the billing cycle I should upgrade to the unlimited data plan. They do not admit for any reason the upgrade is causing this run away data consuming issue.
We have the stock apps, and a few market aps that are not obscure or unpopular so the potential of a virus is discarded unless google aps, angry birds, American Airlines, winamp, and Foobar are viruses -- No other NON-Stock app is installed.
I asked them explain why out of 2 phones, the ONE phone that had the upgrade is having this problem and the other one does not – the other one consumes less than 5 megabytes in ONE week. Then their numbed headed people just stay quiet No answer.
I honestly think that switching to T-Mobile was like jumping form the frying pan directly into the fire – It is the most horrible customer care and tech support I had ever experience, I though AT&T was bad, T-Mobile is worst.
BTW – their supervisors and customer support was supposed to call me, I have been given that line 4 times, so far in 2 weeks No one has bother to call.
And the Original T-Mobile MyTouch 4G Do not have an open / easy to detect Carrier IQ application in it, perhaps the smithmicro is a trojan horse carrying the same code or it does the same in a orund about way.
The exact name of the application refered to in the previous post is com.smithmicro.DM
The Application I use to track Bandwidth usage Wifi vs Mobile Network Traffic is:
RadioOpt traffic Monitor Widget Version 3.0.1 (Vc48).
It does a wonderful job tracking what goes through Wifi and what goes through Mobile net, tracking bandwidth usage and what object used it.
i'm confused about com.smithmicro.DM. Can someone help me understand:
1) how does com.smithmicro.DM access my phone? Does t mobile push smithmicro to my phone or was it factory pre-installed by the phone manufacturer? If smithmicro is factory installed native app, does it function without tmobile's assistance and is granted access without me allowing permission?
2) what is all this data they are adding and pulling from the phone?
3) So if smithmicro is a OMADM, and it pushes updates in bundles, would I see the names of all the updates and software in my logs, or would it be named a group bundle name, ie if 5 updates are being pushed to my phone and one was ciq, what name would show in my log?
4) SO, CARRIER IQ IS A SPIN OFF OF CORE MBOBILITY, and smithmicro bought core mobility in sept 2009.