I use mine as a hotspot? Are you trying to rape TMO? I mean it is unlimited but please folks be reasonable and don't abuse things. We got it GOOOOOODDDD..... If you over use and throw in their face (well you said unlimited) they will just take it away. They do a great job and they are entitles to make some money and in the meantime charge us less than anyone and give us better service than ANYONE.
Now if that is not the case then call TMO maybe wrong setting on your account, problem phone.
It worked on my Vibrant, on My Galaxy 4G and it works on my Galaxy II... yeah you read it right all three galaxy, in the course of a year. I have a problem ok??? And no money now as a result Is there a TMO annonoumous Hi my name is Jeff and I keep upgrading phones using made up reasons in my head to justify the enormous cost.
(HI JEFF) LOL....
I upgraded to the $G$2 a week ago today!
I have used around 1.2 Gs of data since the start (15th) of my bill cycle.
I never was able to use it as a hot-spot.
I know it is not a wrong setting on my account because my 13 yo daughter has a SideKick (made by samsung on tmo network) that I bought her and the exact same feature works fine and at no additional cost.
I called 611 and they told me that I would have to BEND OVER, excuse me, pay $15 for a hot-spot/tethering svc in order to use my 7 day old $G$2 as a hot-spot.
I made sure to ask, "I can use this phone as an internet hot-spot, right?" The TMo employee said, "yes"
No one offered the hot-spot/tethering svc to me when I bought the phone!
Yeah...Times change. Now you gotta pay. I'd take that phone back and keep using the Sidekick for abusing the T-Mo data network.
You should pay extra for every byte of data not consumed by your device, and if you exceed a threshold, you should be throttled.
My phone will play videos, but just because no one offered video downloading when I bought the phone (mine is a loaner from T-Mo) doesn't mean I should get them for free.
The reason for charging differnet for the SII is perfectly logical.
Your Sidekick has a 2 MB internet radio in it. The original galaxy 4g a 22 mb radio (Max theoretical speed).
The new Galaxy II.... 42 MB radio.... Look Tmobile is entitle to make a profit. Look at what they GIVE you (Customer care quality, voice quality, internet speed, huge selection of equipment) what is wrong with people? Seriously we seem to have turned into a country full of ENTITLED idiots.
The pricing is BEYOND fair. I pay for 4 smart phone plans so yeah its a LOT of money, but individually, for what I get; NO, its not... Its way fair and I could not be happier with my service.
I need my phone for business, for entertainment, its my lifeline just about and you know what it works everytime I pick it up and its fast as hell... I could not be happier.
This forum is less "geeky" than others...which is probably why people are still asking this question here and not on other forums...
The HTC Amaze 4G and Samsung Galaxy S II 4G have a tether manager app baked into the operating system. This is new and isn't on previous t-mobile android models. YES tethering is supposed to be a paid add-on feature, which is why the app checks to see if you have a tethering plan. if you don't it sends devices the up-sell page. this app also disables local data on the phone while in tethering mode (which is stupid and smart all at the same time; smart because it saves battery and reduces overheating potential, stupid because...well i still want data on my phone while tethering!).
There IS a work-around. You need to root your phone. If you don't know what that is...just google it - don't go around asking...it's been covered throughly by the entire android community. And I will say here that rooting is NOT for everyone...so user/owner beware.
Once you root your device you can find and delete the tether manager.apk (app) and WHAM...you get to use wifi tether and data on your phone all at the same time, with no upsell page.
Doing this is only recommended for people who tether LIGHTLY. You are still bound by your 5gb high speed data cap, but more importantly carriers know if you're tethering or not, because computers use a different net access method and also the amount of data transfers spikes A LOT compared to just mobile browsing. So you do risk getting caught, and being forced to add the tether add-on anyways...but if you just need to tether briefly to check e-mails on the go, etc. this should work out really well for you. It has worked well for me!
I got nothin'!
The man answered / addressed the topic in full detail. While I offered only a splatter of some of the reasoning (from the business side) this certainly covers the how 100%. And yeah you can get a third party app; I thought I saw one that does not require rooting but I could be wrong, or maybe it does not work. Mine does already so I am in no need personally to go hunting; for THAT app anyway
nodrogkam thank you for your most excellent post.
P.S. This reminds me... and I am not saying that this is the attitude HERE... But reminds me of a post a while back someone screaming about I think the data cap and its not fair they charge for more??? WTF??? So I gave reasoning and his reply (are you sitting down) was that is all well and good but he is not rich like me (I need to ask him where my millions are, keep forgetting)..... and that he can't afford more.
COOL... I get that.... I told him (and I do!)
I said I got the same problem I want a Mercedes McLarrent SLR AMG Really really bad but I can't afford one.
and a couple weeks ago I was at Wendy's and got a meal, forgot my wallet so thank god I had a 10 on me right??? BUT at the end I wanted more... They would not give me more because I only had the money to pay for what I got.
He did not think this was nearly as funny as I did, and said not the same thing.. I am like NO??? How so? You paid for something and got it. Now you want more but it requires another deposit in the slot and you can't or wont make the deposit. samething.
reply was its not fair business. And I said That this is the very reason why our country is so da*n great. Free choice free open trade, use someone else that will give you a better deal.
He said nobody will..
I said... Ohh.....
that was the end of that.
Of course... Being in technology (Database Architect) I know a bit about that but have only rooted one time and did nothing with it really.
Its funny people think because you are "INTO COMPUTERS" that you know everything about everything. As if computers are a single facet item like a paperclip LOL... I know about databases, specificall MS SQL (Many flavors out there) so while MAYBE I can fix your hardware that portion is general street knowledge not based upon my discipline. AND NO I don't know why your application is doing or not doing X.. First of all I don't code in X but more importantly I did not design or program the app so I don't know the specifics about its intended function and all of the other functionality within in it to draw a reasonable answer. My guess is usually pretty good but its just that, a guess...
Anyway props to your detail.
At the end of the day folks if you have a company that is trying to s*rew you then exploit loopholes so that you get a fair shake, a reasonable fair shake not your 'the world owes me everything' fair shake. In this case Tmobile is plenty fair so if you want it pay for it. If its a one off emergency and you need to connect like right now then find a way, there are plenty of ways out there but I for one am not going to teach you how to steal.
luckily we're not charged more $ when going over the high speed data cap. this is a mixed blessing for some...for me it's all good.
i am however, not happy with (but understand) the tethering add-on charge.
Unlike AT&T (god i dislike them for fanning the flames of the corporate stingy trend), when you pay for their tethering add-on, you get abit more data to chew through. Granted AT&T subscribers pay a lot per month and only get up to 4gb, while we get 5gb straight out the gate...but I feel that if we pay, we should get more.
Wifi-tethering is not something our phone/software isn't designed to handle/do, and we're still bound by our monthly data limits.
In a more complicated and perhaps fair business world, it would make "sense" to allow us to tether, but not at the crazy speeds that our phones are capable of reaching. In this world, carriers would degrade our experience a little by reducing tethered speeds to "3G". By doing so they would provide an acceptable experience for most users who tether lightly anyways, while also preventing their network from being overtaxed and ruining the experience for everyone else on the network. BUT if users pay the premium, carriers would increase our data speeds and throw us 1-2gb more to play with!
Anyways that's just a thought that no carrier will implement cause they'd make less money on something they would have to put more work into implementing and sustaining...haha.
Yeah I get it... Because like with the 5gb plan as an example.. they expect breakage (x percent does not hit the 5g) that is extra profit and with tethering the percentage will drop they think. I don't think it would really. I think the people that would tether would be the people already consuming the cap, like me... It just gets you there faster which actually improves your day over profitability.
AND the other plus is you would attract more customers while still caping the high bandwidth usage. None of use use the low end for anything more than getting email, non event really.