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  • 15. Re: Samsung Galaxy SII & tethering?
    panzer06

    That's acting just like AT&T.  T-Mobile never really checked or enforced.  It's not like tethering was using up too much data since they throttled to Edge if you exceeded a certain use.

     

    Next thing they'll start adding data plans to people who are using Androids as a simple texting phone and wifi for internet.  For now they don't bother people who stick a tmobile sim in a smartphone and just use it as a phone whereas AT&Ts system recogizes the phone and starts billing data plans.  I was an at&t customer forever (from the begining before and of the mergers) and they just got more and more greedy over the years. 

     

    I just don't want T-Mobile to become like that. 

     

    Cheers,

  • 16. Re: Samsung Galaxy SII & tethering?
    flashfox

    I am in the same boat as you. I had free WiFi tethering with my Vibrant and with my rooted G2x. With the SGS2, I was told that I need to pay the $9.99/m.

     

    As noted in the thread just above this one, I don't even reach 1GB/m so why does it care if I reach that number on the phone or via a tethered device?

  • 17. Re: Samsung Galaxy SII & tethering?
    tidbits

    flashfox wrote:

     

    Tether or not, 5GB is 5GB no matter how it is reached. Why would T-Mobile care if one reaches that cap on the phone itself or via a tethered device? They throttle anyone who crosses that threshold while other carriers charge an overage fee.

     

    If I don't even reach 1GB/m, why should it matter how it is achieved?

    Then why did you agree to the terms.  No matter how you think or look at it. YOU agreed to their terms and got service.

     

    What they are doing is the same thing as If you had a horse and you wanted to use my watering pond.  I told you only your horse(phone) can use that pond, and nothing else. You then decide to take your pig, and 3 other horses in which wasn't part of our agreement.  I could stop you from taking the pig and 3 other horses.

  • 18. Re: Samsung Galaxy SII & tethering?
    tidbits

    Actually no again.  Tethering always had a charge on other carriers and not just AT&T so they are NOT being AT&T like.  T-Mobile will not be in the market in the future.  They want out for the past 5 years, and someone actually gave them a fair offer(AT&T).  If that deal falls through then I think eventually T-Mobile will sell the network in parts just to ensure they are out of the market within the near future.

    panzer06 wrote:

     

    That's acting just like AT&T.  T-Mobile never really checked or enforced.  It's not like tethering was using up too much data since they throttled to Edge if you exceeded a certain use.

     

    Next thing they'll start adding data plans to people who are using Androids as a simple texting phone and wifi for internet.  For now they don't bother people who stick a tmobile sim in a smartphone and just use it as a phone whereas AT&Ts system recogizes the phone and starts billing data plans.  I was an at&t customer forever (from the begining before and of the mergers) and they just got more and more greedy over the years. 

     

    I just don't want T-Mobile to become like that. 

     

    Cheers,

  • 19. Re: Samsung Galaxy SII & tethering?

    It probably has something to do with the higher theoretical transfer limits.  It makes it a lot easier to use this as an Internet replacement.  A lot more people would be hitting the transfer limit.  That being said they should give you extra transfer or something if they are going to charge for this *feature*

  • 20. Re: Samsung Galaxy SII & tethering?
    flashfox

    What choices do you have? Accept the T&Cs or don't sign up.

     

    Your 3 horses and a pig analagy made me chuckle. However, if you let me bring my three horses and my pig to the watering hole for a couple of years, then decide to enforce the original rules, I would certainly have reason to fight this in court (although with your analagy, we would probably resolve this at the O.K. Corral ;-)

  • 21. Re: Samsung Galaxy SII & tethering?
    intelman

    I was told today by TMO that the free period for tethering is ending for all phones (I guess that would not included rooted but I'm not an expert).  All old phones will eventually get an error saying they need to purchase a new Tethering plan and all new phones will come out of the box set to require the plan.

     

    I agree that this is a way to increase revenue but it is also a deterent to using more data bandwidth.  The 5GB threshold is only an arbitrary number that very few subscribers ever hit.  Most other carriers use a 2GB threshold.  You are missing the point to think that it is ok to use as much data as you want regardless of method as long as you stay below this arbitrary threshold.   They want you to use less data bandwidth period even is you are only using 1GB.  So the $9.95 has two benefits for TMO, 1) they get an immediate nee revenue stream without incremental cost and 2) they are discouraging the use of the phone as a home wifi router in lieu of traditional broadband services.  Many on these boards have been saying if the 4G 42Mbs is faster than traditional broadband they will drop their internet service and use the 4G network full time.  This scares TMO because they don't have the capacity to support widespread usage of even 2-3GB per month muchless 5GB.

     

    This is why they encouraged me to turn on the tethering service when I need it and turn it off when I don't.  They would be much happier for me to use wifi sharing on a casual basis.

  • 22. Re: Samsung Galaxy SII & tethering?
    flashfox

    OK... let me play the game.

     

    The new SGS2 comes preloaded with NETFLIX. Let's say that I love watching movies on my SGS2. I would reach my 5GB cap pretty quickly. The fact that T-Mobile preloads our phones with applications like this encourages people to use the bandwidth.

     

    If T-Mobile wanted to discourage what they consider "excessive bandwidth use", then they should start by NOT preloading our phones with applications like that.

  • 23. Re: Samsung Galaxy SII & tethering?
    panzer06

    I've only very rarely had full bars indoors so there's absolutely no chance I'd use T-Mobile as my primary Internet connection.  I'm 9 stories up with no obstructions and get 1-2 bars inside but 4 the minute I walk outside.  The engineers at work say it has to do with the wireless frequecies t-mobile usa has.  Supposedly they don't work well indoors.  Regardless, I'd have no problem if they said tethering was free but limited to a combined use of 2 or 4gb along with regular data. 

     

    I understand the need for revenue.  Deustche Telekom is probably pressuring them to build additional profits. Regardless, I think the pig and extra hores (nod to tidbits) really liked the water in that pond and are very annoyed to find a fence where there was none.  Unfortunately all the other ponds are way more expensive so I suppose they'll get used to going in the front gate and paying. 

     

    ANYTHING to keep AT&T from polluting the pond. 

     

    Cheers,

  • 24. Re: Samsung Galaxy SII & tethering?
    tidbits

    flashfox wrote:

     

    OK... let me play the game.

     

    The new SGS2 comes preloaded with NETFLIX. Let's say that I love watching movies on my SGS2. I would reach my 5GB cap pretty quickly. The fact that T-Mobile preloads our phones with applications like this encourages people to use the bandwidth.

     

    If T-Mobile wanted to discourage what they consider "excessive bandwidth use", then they should start by NOT preloading our phones with applications like that.

    Bandwidth isn't cheap and it costs them billions of dollars to actually bring you data to your phone.  Netflix has an exclusive agreement where their subscriptions costs that part of their earnings will go to carriers if the device is preinstalled with the software.

     

    Just like AT&T and Verizon if carriers exceed amounts they paid for they'll have to fork over more money.  Do you know how much the US military spends on bandwidth per year?

  • 25. Re: Samsung Galaxy SII & tethering?
    nearmsp

    It is like telling, well we have all you can eat buffet for $10.00. And then turning around and saying well this would only apply if you take  no more than an hour. If you take more time, we will charge another $10.00. And explanation is food costs a lot, labor costs money.

    T-mobile always allowed tethering. I have used Blackberries for years now. To now turn around and say it is no more free is ridiculous. I am also paying $10 or so for hotspot each month. Now the charge for that stopped almost a year ago. T-mobile never came and told me we now provide it for free. So this is nothing but turning the company into an AT&T clone. Well, I did not fall for the SGS2 with no wi-fi calling. I might just give sprint a closer look for their iPhone 4S.

  • 26. Re: Samsung Galaxy SII & tethering?
    tidbits

    nearmsp wrote:

     

    It is like telling, well we have all you can eat buffet for $10.00. And then turning around and saying well this would only apply if you take  no more than an hour. If you take more time, we will charge another $10.00. And explanation is food costs a lot, labor costs money.

    T-mobile always allowed tethering. I have used Blackberries for years now. To now turn around and say it is no more free is ridiculous. I am also paying $10 or so for hotspot each month. Now the charge for that stopped almost a year ago. T-mobile never came and told me we now provide it for free. So this is nothing but turning the company into an AT&T clone. Well, I did not fall for the SGS2 with no wi-fi calling. I might just give sprint a closer look for their iPhone 4S.

    Read the terms...  It specifically states you must have a tethering plan in order to tether since then.  T-Mobile NEVER had a tethering plan nor a data plan that allowed tethering which in turn means that you couldn't tether at all within their network.  People did it anyway, and T-Mobile never enforced that rule until recently.  We already been down this road in the T-Mobile old forums.

     

    Have fun at Sprint read their terms and under the fact people claim T-Mobile doesn't offer unlimited data...

     

    Make sure you read their terms...

    Sprint does not allow 300MB of DOMESTIC roaming

    Sprint PRETHROTTLE and/or compress certain data services off the bat

    Sprint reserves the right to cancel your data services if they feel you are abusing their network."fair use clause"

     

    I have personally been dropped of service from Sprint prior to coming to T-Mobile.  Under what people perceive "unlimited" is supposed to mean well they have restrictions as well, but they don't advertise them.

  • 27. Re: Samsung Galaxy SII & tethering?
    tidbits

    nearmsp wrote:

     

    It is like telling, well we have all you can eat buffet for $10.00. And then turning around and saying well this would only apply if you take  no more than an hour. If you take more time, we will charge another $10.00. And explanation is food costs a lot, labor costs money.

    T-mobile always allowed tethering. I have used Blackberries for years now. To now turn around and say it is no more free is ridiculous. I am also paying $10 or so for hotspot each month. Now the charge for that stopped almost a year ago. T-mobile never came and told me we now provide it for free. So this is nothing but turning the company into an AT&T clone. Well, I did not fall for the SGS2 with no wi-fi calling. I might just give sprint a closer look for their iPhone 4S.

    I would like to add that all you can eat buffet is the perfect example, BUT incorrect usage of it.

     

    You go to an all YOU can eat(cellphone), but you can't have your brother(laptop) to eat off you or your plate.  Your brother would need to pay his portion.  See where we are going here?

  • 28. Re: Samsung Galaxy SII & tethering?

    Bravo for the buffet analogy!

    Some of us have been eating there for years. Now all of a sudden they want to charge extra for ice cream and ketchup.

    There's a very good chance I will just keep using my G2X and return the GS2.

  • 29. Re: Samsung Galaxy SII & tethering?

    Except you and your brother are sharing the same amount of food (Until you get throttled).  It is more akin to charging people for splitting a pizza.

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