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  • 15. Re: Sensation expected to get Ice Cream 4.0

    Glad to see so much excitement about ICS on the Sensation! We will get it out to you as soon as possible! Looks to be an awesome update!

  • 16. Re: Sensation expected to get Ice Cream 4.0
    ohammonds

    Is this still the case? Not much mention of this as of late.

  • 17. Re: Sensation expected to get Ice Cream 4.0

    It appears that there are problems and the ICS release for the Sensation  has been delayed.  T-Mobile on their Facebook page is now replying to inquiries about ICS on the Sensation with a comment that their are issues and they have sent the software back to HTC to work on "bug fixes".  Sounds like it ain't gonna be rolled out anytime soon.  Again I say T-Mobile has nothing to gain by rolling this out as ICS on the SEnsation may hurt the sales of their upcoming HTC One S, as well as bury their support lines if there are indeed bugs or problems with the rollout.  If I were a betting man I'd say second half of the year, or they may just give up on it and leave us with Gingerbread.  I suspect the technical bugs my be in the WiFi Calling app as none of the Custom Roms seem to be able to get this feature working consistently.

  • 18. Re: Sensation expected to get Ice Cream 4.0
    darnell
    1. I'm not seeing any evidence of T-Mobile claiming they sent anything back to HTC due to any "bugs".  Is anyone able to see any comments such as the one greatgoogly posted here?  I find it interesting that I cannot find this claim anywhere but in a post made by "greatgoogly".
    2. I've seen nothing to assert that the release is having any major delays.  Last credible report, was from HTC, that things are moving along and we'll see more ICS rollouts very soon.
      This means, even if any such claim of an issue are true, that the delay will be short, not months out or a total refusal of an update.
    3. T-Mobile has plenty to gain by releasing an update, look at all the people wanting it.  And HTC which is the party that works with T-Mobile has let it be known the update is coming soon.
    4. I have a custom ROM that is running the Final ICS release.  No WiFi calling issues and I don't know a single custom ROM that has issues with WiFi calling at this point, if the build happens to include it.  Pre-final builds that ROM cooks were using based on various alpha ROMs that HTC let leak were missing plenty of features.

     

    I just find it very interesting, that by far the vast majority of greatgoogly's posts are devoted to trying to down-talk the ICS update.

  • 19. Re: Sensation expected to get Ice Cream 4.0

    The way Facebook is setup I can't link to the specific post.  Go to The T-Mobile Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/TMobile?sk=wall&filter=1. make sure that you are viewing the wall as "Everyone (Most Recent)".  Start scrolling through posts from customers, you may have to scroll through a ton of garbage, but if you find one that asks about the rollout of ICS for the Sensation, look at the comments underneath and chances are you will see a T-Mobile rep responding that the software they received from HTC is not providing the "experience" that they want and that it needs further work.  This isn't a single post, I think I've seen similar responses from official T-Mobile reps over the last 72 hours to questions on the Facebook page.  Whether you want to believe it or not, T-Mobile's official reps are the one's saying this.

  • 20. Re: Sensation expected to get Ice Cream 4.0
    darnell

    I'll let someone else who does "Facebook" confirm.  But as I've already said, bug fixes do not mean a lengthy delay.

     

    Worst case, T-Mobile cares about quality and will ensure a better update comes to you than even the great release I've already been using.  A delay that certainly won't take a long as you've claimed you suspect it might.  HTC fixed the last major bug in their ICS update in...1 day .

     

    The odds are simply not in the pessimists favor on this one .

     

    Hot selling devices get the updates, and the HTC Sensation is such and will in weeks, not months.

     

    Just the same, I'm glad you concede your error on the other points via your lack of response regarding them.

  • 21. Re: Sensation expected to get Ice Cream 4.0

    Only thing the T-Mobile reps are saying on their FaceBook page is that they don't have any information about the ICS release.  No mention of any "defect".

  • 22. Re: Sensation expected to get Ice Cream 4.0
    lolita

    I just searched the tmobile page on facebook... Could not find no such statement regarding ics being sent back to Htc for "fixes".

  • 23. Re: Sensation expected to get Ice Cream 4.0

    It's on there you have to read the posts from customers and thier comments

  • 24. Re: Sensation expected to get Ice Cream 4.0

    Here is the response I received today from T-Mobile on their Facebook page to my inquiry  regarding the ICS upgrade.  Believe it if you want or don't, but this is the latest... "

    T-Mobile USA

    Hey Mike HTC has delivered a ROM to us however it is still having issues the reason that other sensation types have the update without issue and ours did not come out that way is because every ROM must be adapted to the hardware of the device because we use a different radio than other providers and also have applications such as wifi calling it also has to be compatible with those. What the HTC rep told you is most likely correct because once a ROM is delivered we have 2 weeks to test it and then approve it or send it back they then have 4 weeks to fix the bugs and return it back to us, where we are exactly in that process I do not know but that is how a ROM is delivered to the customer. ^KM

  • 25. Re: Sensation expected to get Ice Cream 4.0
    kennetht

    greatgoogly wrote:

     

    Here is the response I received today from T-Mobile on their Facebook page to my inquiry  regarding the ICS upgrade.  Believe it if you want or don't, but this is the latest... "

    T-Mobile USA

    Hey Mike HTC has delivered a ROM to us however it is still having issues the reason that other sensation types have the update without issue and ours did not come out that way is because every ROM must be adapted to the hardware of the device because we use a different radio than other providers and also have applications such as wifi calling it also has to be compatible with those. What the HTC rep told you is most likely correct because once a ROM is delivered we have 2 weeks to test it and then approve it or send it back they then have 4 weeks to fix the bugs and return it back to us, where we are exactly in that process I do not know but that is how a ROM is delivered to the customer. ^KM

     

    sounds pretty honest to me...  but u never know.  tmobile could be just feeding you misleading information

  • 26. Re: Sensation expected to get Ice Cream 4.0
    darnell

    OK, so lets say it is there, that an actual T-Mobile rep(s) said the update was kicked back to HTC for bug fixing.  This would mean the following:

    1. We're sure enough going to get an update!  Because it is the carrier that orders the updates from the OEM.  That means T-Mobile HAD TO make a request to HTC for the update to be released for use on their network.  HTC sent the update with T-Mobile's specs of what should be in the ROM.  T-Mobile did testing and wants something of higher quality.
    2. T-Mobile is not trying to hold anything back.  They'd never start the process of making a request for the update and actually testing, if they had no desire for it.  They would have never made an order with HTC for the update, which would be the far more cost effective move if they didn't want the ICS update on the HTC Sensation 4G.
    3. There is no indication of any major delay of months.  As HTC's blog mentioned, they expect to have something in the coming weeks. 
    4. Only parts of Germany and Nordic countries have the OTA update so far.  So this is not a case where the rest of the Sensation owning world has the update and we don't.  So there is zero evidence to support any notion of T-Mobile seeking to withhold anything from us.
  • 27. Re: Sensation expected to get Ice Cream 4.0
    darnell

    This further confirms an update will come in weeks, not months.

     

    As I've already mentioned, WiFi calling works, they mentioned that as an example.  But that works just fine. 

     

    The radio is working fine for me and everyone using the update, but perhaps T-Mobile found something that might compromise quality for some customers somewhere.

     

    So this proves T-Mobile is very much working on getting it to us officially and the process is one of weeks, not months.

     

    And then there's the matter of these statements not being an "official" corporate statement from T-Mobile.  Individual employees making incorrect statements is nothing unusual.  I'm not saying that rep is wrong at all, I'm just saying it happens.

     

    So if the rep is 100% right, the update will come in some weeks and T-Mobile is very actively working to get something to us that is of high quality.  I see this as nothing but a good thing.

  • 28. Re: Sensation expected to get Ice Cream 4.0
    kennetht

    darnell wrote:

     

    OK, so lets say it is there, that an actual T-Mobile rep(s) said the update was kicked back to HTC for bug fixing.  This would mean the following:

    1. We're sure enough going to get an update!  Because it is the carrier that orders the updates from the OEM.  That means T-Mobile HAD TO make a request to HTC for the update to be released for use on their network.  HTC sent the update with T-Mobile's specs of what should be in the ROM.  T-Mobile did testing and wants something of higher quality.
    2. T-Mobile is not trying to hold anything back.  They'd never start the process of making a request for the update and actually testing, if they had no desire for it.  They would have never made an order with HTC for the update, which would be the far more cost effective move if they didn't want the ICS update on the HTC Sensation 4G.
    3. There is no indication of any major delay of months.  As HTC's blog mentioned, they expect to have something in the coming weeks. 
    4. Only parts of Germany and Nordic countries have the OTA update so far.  So this is not a case where the rest of the Sensation owning world has the update and we don't.  So there is zero evidence to support any notion of T-Mobile seeking to withhold anything from us.

     

    very true. 

  • 29. Re: Sensation expected to get Ice Cream 4.0

    Ok. So can someone just answer this clearly for me?

     

    The ICS update will take away the free 'wifi hotspot' tethering that some people were receiving. Yes?

     

    But it will not affect my ability to connect via wifi to my home network to utilize my WiFi instead of my data plan while at home, nor will it take away my ability to use WiFi calling -- both at no charge. Correct?