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  • 30. Re: No LTE Maybe T-Mobile's Down Fall, "HTC One S" A Upscale HTC Sensation, No HTC One X
    darnell

    notsosensational wrote:

     

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    I held off on my upgrade just to get a TRUE top-of-the-line phone and T-mo "screws me at the drive-thru" again.

     

    The Sensation fell short, spec wise, against is two main competitors last year: The Galaxy and the Evo 3d. From quadrant scores, to battery size, to RAM. The Sensation, as a Flagship, was not worthy of the title. Now, with people leaving T-mo, and them crying about how the iPhone is killing them they offer up, AS ANOTHER FLAGSHIP, another mid-range phone.  I am not leaving t-mo cuz I love the customer service and the rates, but I will not be buying this phone.

    T-Mobile carries the Samsung Galaxy S II also.  So it's not like they only carry HTC devices.  If you want a Galaxy S II, you can get one.  T-Mobile never said a single device was their "flagship".  (Given their Christmas TV commercials featured the SGS2, I don't see why anyone would claim that T-Mobile proclaimed the Sensation was their "flagship".)  You made a choice, but if you kept an eye on the tech reports, you'd know both the Sensation and Galaxy S 2 were coming to T-Mobile and their specs well ahead of time.

     

    This is not as if T-Mobile got a One S and can get nothing else.  The whole One series of devices is a joke.  Even the 32GB version is not truely 32GB, since you would not have access to 32GB, only 26GB is accessible in the 32GB version.  This is but one device series.  Let's see what other OEMs come with and how T-Mobile deals with them.

  • 31. Re: No LTE Maybe T-Mobile's Down Fall, "HTC One S" A Upscale HTC Sensation, No HTC One X

    Good point Darnell, but I might be jumping ship from HTC to Mr. Sammy's side ... Mr Sammy's new coming Android smartphones are really looking good, also Mr. Sammy got some nice features on his stuff, (Galaxy S Trey III(3) ...

  • 32. Re: No LTE Maybe T-Mobile's Down Fall, "HTC One S" A Upscale HTC Sensation, No HTC One X
    notsosensational

    t-mo does have the Galaxy S II, but by the time it got here I already had the Sensation. And then the Amaze came out as well.  I am beginning to see the trend. T-mo, IMO, is content with being number three. They have not pushed Samsung, HTC or any other company to make them a premier, one of a kind device that will  make the growing, tech - savvy populace drool and want to switch to T-mo. And b

     

    Last years Sensation, when compared spec wise, was THIRD even when compared to its counterparts (the evo 3d and the Galaxy S II). And even though T-mo may not have trumpeted as a Flagship most everyone else did(http://phandroid.com/2011/04/12/official-meet-htcs-new-flagship-phone-the-sensation/). That;s kind of lame. They seem to like being perceived as the runt of the litter. I ride or die (not literally of course) with t-mo, but they are really underwhelming me with their phones, the clout the have with OEM's and their creativity right now.

     

    I will wait to see, like you said, to see if there is anything else that they come up with that truly distances itself as a true game changing phone. I can hope.

  • 33. Re: No LTE Maybe T-Mobile's Down Fall, "HTC One S" A Upscale HTC Sensation, No HTC One X
    darnell

    Well I don't know who other than iPhone fans are going to stay with HTC at this rate.  And after LG locked the bootloader on my G-Slate with their ROM "update", I'm not liking LG either.

     

    So I'm left with Sammy or a future Nexus, if I accept a Nexus from an OEM I otherwise would not buy from, if one I don't like wins production of the next Nexus device.

  • 34. Re: No LTE Maybe T-Mobile's Down Fall, "HTC One S" A Upscale HTC Sensation, No HTC One X

    It's like T-Mobile is content being second class, T-Mobile truly needs a game changing Android smartphone with the ultimate features ... T-Mobile needs a crowd pleaser, drawing card super smartphone ....! 12 mega-Pixel camera, 32 GB of internal memory, giant screen projector, (Sound Sound Audio) with beats, Free T-Mobile TV, real unlimited data and more ....(lol)

  • 35. Re: No LTE Maybe T-Mobile's Down Fall, "HTC One S" A Upscale HTC Sensation, No HTC One X
    notsosensational

    ha! i know you wrote this in jest, but this seems to really be the case.  Outside of the sidekick (which was around forever) and the mytouch, there are NO truly signature phones that t-mo owns or touts. Now, mark my words, sprint is either going to get a third generation EVO that will make you want to throw the One S at the wall when you read its specs OR they will get a One series or something similar that will have eye-popping specs.

     

    its clear that a higher-end phone was on the bidding table, but again, t-mo flaked out. if they want to get a piece of the action they have to grab it. Theyhave the loot. From the parent company's loot to the extra cash they will pick up because of the failed AT&T merger they could have outbid or requested their own "EVO" to get them on the map. I really hope T-mo surprises me later on in the year with a truly unique phone to rival or surpass the One X, seriously.

  • 36. Re: No LTE Maybe T-Mobile's Down Fall, "HTC One S" A Upscale HTC Sensation, No HTC One X
    darnell

    While I totally disagree and could cite against you point for point, you and I often disagree and convince each other of nothing .

     

    So I'll just say you can buy yourself one of these and enjoy the locked up thing .

  • 37. Re: No LTE Maybe T-Mobile's Down Fall, "HTC One S" A Upscale HTC Sensation, No HTC One X

    Darnell, I still think that I'm going with Mr. Sammy, you know that phone, the Trey III(3), the iphone killer ....(lol) If T-Mobile gets the HTC One X, that would be a good move, but I still would not purchase the X, that battery thing, no SD Card, kills the deal for me ...

  • 38. Re: No LTE Maybe T-Mobile's Down Fall, "HTC One S" A Upscale HTC Sensation, No HTC One X
    darnell

    Hey, I totally agree with your decision.  It's not like I'm getting one (no "One" for me), I just offered it to notsosensational, since it seems to be what they want .

  • 39. Re: No LTE Maybe T-Mobile's Down Fall, "HTC One S" A Upscale HTC Sensation, No HTC One X
    darnell

    That SGS3 is sweet looking though.  I may get it, but I'm just a-waiting to see what pans out .

  • 40. Re: No LTE Maybe T-Mobile's Down Fall, "HTC One S" A Upscale HTC Sensation, No HTC One X
    notsosensational

    yes my friend, it is agree to disagree for us both . With that said I am sure your thought out and well researched cites that counter my position point - by - point (that you are not going to do) could not refute the fact that the Sensation had a smaller battery, less RAM and less internal memory than the Galaxy S2 and the Evo. Those are irrefutable. T-mobile will receive a financial kickback from AT&T due to the merger falling through. AND, more importantly, you just provided an article that spoke to my assertion that Sprint may "possibly" get a better One Series phone than what T-mo is getting. So, boy am I glad you did not start to typing my friend....

     

    But seriously, you, me and a host of other people I talked to about this new phone are already saying that it is a done deal that there will be no deal in getting T-mo's latest offering because of the phones iPhone-like limitations (battery & memory). that is not a good sign.  they seem to take the path most followed  - to nowhere - when it comes to giving us a true game changer. Again, I will see what the rest of the year holds.

  • 41. Re: No LTE Maybe T-Mobile's Down Fall, "HTC One S" A Upscale HTC Sensation, No HTC One X
    darnell

    notsosensational - The bottom line here is that you have no one but yourself to blame.  Because you failed to do the homework.  T-Mobile came with the SGS2 later because they added some slightly better spec in some regards than some earlier iterations of the product.

     

    I knew full well about both the Sensation and SGS2 and the spec of each well before buying into the Sensation.  Knowing the full details, I wanted the Sensation, I very much like the Sensation, I prefer the Sensation and still have no desires at all for an SGS2.

     

    You could be happy like me, if you do more homework going forward .

     

    Regarding the Sprint version of the "One" that will be an Evo.  You obviously are still failing to read enough.  Otherwise, you'd have noticed the T-Mobile version is not at all like the Sprint version and the T-Mobile version is by far the better of the 2.

     

    If you're so unhappy with the Sensation, you can still buy an SGS2, or Amaze, or an unlocked Galaxy Nexus today and sell that Sensation on Ebay for 3 figures.

  • 42. Re: No LTE Maybe T-Mobile's Down Fall, "HTC One S" A Upscale HTC Sensation, No HTC One X
    notsosensational

    No my friend, I did my homework. You misunderstand my entire premise. I am an HTC loyalist. I intentionally did not get the Galaxy because Samsung phones feel like plastic toys to me. I did not get the LG because that company is formerly Goldstar. I hated their appliances so I knew their phones would be garbage.  As for the Evo, its on Sprint and I am not leaving T-mo. I was just in shock how off the mark (IMO) the Sensation was when compared to other phones in its class. That's all.

     

    My point, which I will not belabor after this post, is that T-mo's offering of the Sensation was not the top of the line in its class nor was it the highest, spec wise, from HTC (which was the Evo 3d).  I am disappointed that T-mo is viewed as a third-rate organization. however, I can clearly see, as a  customer, they are not willing to push the envelope and have their own true staple phone. I also recognize that most people are not like me so when they introduce this phone in the spring 80% of the people who bought the Sensation last year are going to try and figure out how to get an early upgrade so they can purchase it. T-mo knows this so there is no reason - in their shortsightedness - to raise the bar.

     

    With regards to the article and the "rumor" of the quad core, "IF" that is true and there is a 32 gig, 1800 battery and 4.7 inch screen, I may be pursuaded to get it. maybe. but for now my sensation is fine enough.

  • 43. Re: No LTE Maybe T-Mobile's Down Fall, "HTC One S" A Upscale HTC Sensation, No HTC One X

    Word is that T-Mobile will be getting the iphone soon, this is the grapevine word now ...

  • 44. Re: No LTE Maybe T-Mobile's Down Fall, "HTC One S" A Upscale HTC Sensation, No HTC One X

    T-Mobile HSPA+/LTE Network Will Use Integrated Radios, Won’t Completely End 2G Network          

      

    T-Mobile CTO Neville Ray, speaking with Fierce Wireless explained that T-Mobile will be the first wireless carrier to deploy integrated radios in North America. Ray says that integrated radios will be critical to T-Mobile’s network modernization process and its deployment of LTE Release 10. By integrating the antenna and the radio, power consumption can be reduced and less space is required on each tower. T-Mobile’s network modernization plan, which has only come to light in the past two weeks, came together internally in just eight weeks time. Ray says that T-Mobile is moving ahead as fast as it possibly can: “We are pushing as hard as we can.”

    Ray continued to point out how T-Mobile will differentiate its LTE network from the competition by deploying LTE Release 10, which can be upgraded to LTE Advanced via a software upgrade. Ray explained that other operators, notably AT&T and Verizon have not deployed LTE Release 10 gear but instead opted to deploy LTE Release 8.

    Ray confirmed that T-Mobile will continue to support its 2G customers as it refarms the 1900MHz spectrum adding that T-Mobile has no plans to decommission its GSM network. Ray emphasized that T-Mobile’s 2G network provides international roaming revenue and is home to a lot of their M2M customers.

    Ray also said that T-Mobile is still considering HSPA+ 84 technology, (which we should point out, contradicts comments made earlier in the week by Senior Vice President Andrew Sherrard0 but has made no commitments noting that many chipset vendors have not included HSPA+ 84 in their roadmap. Ray finished by saying that there is still time for the HSPA+ 84 ecosystem to develop but that T-Mobile is now focused on their LTE roadmap.

    Editors Note: Just to clarify for everyone who may ask, T-Mobile’s original LTE rollout will be theoretically capable of 72Mbps. The ability to software update the network to LTE 10 allows for T-Mobile to easily upgrade their network to much faster speeds with more backhaul. LTE 10 has a theoretical max of 150Mbps. For what it’s worth, our main spectrum guru Conan Kudo tells me that HSPA+ is really more network efficient than LTE up until release 10.