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      • 15. Re: HTC One-S - who is excited?

        TMO has good devices but not too many top of the line.  I am surprised that you would argue that our exclusives are comparable to the other carriers.  They just aren't.  That is the hardest thing about being a  loyal T-Mobile customer.

         

        My biggest point is with truly the largest and fastest 4G network, with the best prices, with a great customer service rating (over the past few years), I don't understand why we aren't in a better position to get better recognition and better handsets. 

        • 16. Re: HTC One-S - who is excited?
          21stnow

          A "smaller" customer base, caused by bad perceptions, and a smaller coverage footprint can lead to less attention from the handset manufacturers.  It's sad that T-Mobile's customer base is viewed as insignificant when it's almost the same as the population of Canada!

          • 17. Re: HTC One-S - who is excited?
            darnell

            21stnow wrote:

             

            I'm responding to the last two sentences of your first paragraph. VZW has the Galaxy Nexus, HTC Rezound, Droid RAZR and Droid Bionic. I may be leaving out some, but that's four to our two.

             

            AT&T has exclusivity on the Galaxy Note.

            Exactly, I said:

            Overall T-Mobile still has more of the Top of the Line Android devices than any other. This is the first time to my knowledge that AT&T has beat out T-Mobile on "exclusive" for the top shelf Android device.

             

            T-Mobile has more in terms of count of higher end Android devices. VZW has some, but not as many total.

             

            I guess AT&T beat T-Mobile on a tablet, I was not aware although I was thinking more about phones.

            • 18. Re: HTC One-S - who is excited?
              21stnow

               

               

              Darnell, we are saying totally opposite things.  I'm saying that VZW has more (I only ran down the last 4 months or so of VZW), while you are saying that T-Mobile has more.

               

              The Galaxy Note is considered a phone or phone/tablet combo.  It requires a voice plan, so I would consider it a phone.

               

              AT&T has had other exclusives on Android phones.  The HTC Inspire and the Samsung Infuse are two that come to mind from early 2011.

              • 19. Re: HTC One-S - who is excited?
                darnell

                gonzo.321 wrote:

                 

                TMO has good devices but not too many top of the line.  I am surprised that you would argue that our exclusives are comparable to the other carriers.  They just aren't.  That is the hardest thing about being a  loyal T-Mobile customer.

                 

                My biggest point is with truly the largest and fastest 4G network, with the best prices, with a great customer service rating (over the past few years), I don't understand why we aren't in a better position to get better recognition and better handsets.

                I am surprised that you would claim I am wrong.

                 

                Let's run the list of present T-Mobile high end Android devices:

                • HTC Sensation - Was the best thing on the street when T-Mobile got it.
                • HTC Amaze - If it's not a top of the line device, nothing is.
                • Samsung Galaxy S II - Need I say more?
                • T-Mobile G2x - When it was released, it was the badest available.  What else with dual-core came out before it?
                • myTouch 4G line - This line of devices has spec that is near to that of the Amaze and Sensation.

                 

                As far as exclusives, name the top shelf Android phone that AT&T beat T-Mobile out for before this and the Galaxy Note?

                • 20. Re: HTC One-S - who is excited?
                  darnell

                  Well we can disagree.

                   

                  You're right about the Note.  I just keep thinking of that thing as a tablet in my mind .

                  • 21. Re: HTC One-S - who is excited?
                    darnell

                    At least the Global One X will be quad-core, unlike the AT&T version.

                     

                    And this is what I like about GSM carriers like T-Mobile and AT&T, at least a global device can get basic phone services and some tiny bit of data services on their networks.  With Sprint and Verizon, you get NOTHING if you have a global device.

                     

                    Really, the whole world of GSM devices can be used with T-Mobile.  It only comes down to a matter of how much carrier data speed you want.

                    • 22. Re: HTC One-S - who is excited?

                      It's all about the pixels.  I love the AMOLED displays, but when will T-mobile offer a phone with 720P???  This is a huge gap in their offering.  They really need to step up and bring the International HTC One X stateside. 

                      • 23. Re: HTC One-S - who is excited?
                        darnell

                        I just noticed a comment by someone who pointed out the entire "One" series of devices has no removable battery.  And it's true.

                         

                        So nothing is removable, not storage or the battery.  No swapping in a new battery when battery is low and no buying a 3rd party extended life battery.

                         

                        Instead of the "One", they should call this device line, THE JOKE .

                        • 24. Re: HTC One-S - who is excited?
                          21stnow

                          Yeah, it's unfortunate that OEMs are seeing Apple's success despite not offering device users options such as expandable storage and extended batteries, and deciding to jump on that train instead of continuing to provide a different experience.  If these things were advertised/promoted as advantages, I think that more consumers would demand it.

                          • 25. Re: HTC One-S - who is excited?
                            darnell

                            HTC may be a company that is headed for the rocks.

                             

                            Now I can't blame T-Mobile one bit for taking the lower end of the "One" series of devices.  It's wiser for T-Mobile to seek partnerships with other OEMs at this rate.

                             

                            (shaking my head at HTC...)

                            • 26. Re: HTC One-S - who is excited?
                              21stnow

                              The lack of removable battery is not limited to HTC.  The Motorola DROID RAZR doesn't have a removable battery either (not that there's a lot of Motorola phones on T-Mobile).

                              • 27. Re: HTC One-S - who is excited?

                                Yeah but the HTC One X has 32 GB of internal storage, which is fine for most people, so does the Samsung Galaxy Nexus for Verizon. Since the internal storage is always partitionned, it means less than 10 GB of usable storage.

                                With movies, music, 8 MP pictures, HD Videos and tons of other stuff, 10 GB really doesn't cut it. Dropbox is great but it doesn't cut it when you want to listen to music in the subway with no reception.

                                I'd say the rule should be 16 GB or less of internal storage+ SD card reader OR at least 32 GB of storage and no SD card reader, unless it's not a high end phone but the HTC One S seems to be marketed as a high end phone.

                                Of course I'd much rather have 32 GB of storage +SD card slot...

                                 

                                Like I said in another thread, I'm really disappointed. The battery is only 1650 mAh NON REMOVABLE which means I would never be able to get buy an extended battery. When I see Motorola has phones with 3300 mAh batteries, 1650 mAh sounds like a joke. Plus HTC has a history of dismal battery life (Amaze 4G, etc) so it's not looking too good.

                                And like I said before a 4.3" qHD display is for 2011 not for a 2012 high end phone.

                                 

                                So I definitely won't be buying the HTC One S.

                                • 28. Re: HTC One-S - who is excited?

                                  Yeah it's true that T-Mobile's Android phone selection was very good last year, until about november.

                                  It's just frustrating that they fell behind the way they did this year....

                                  Hopefully they'll catch up by July....

                                  All they have to do is carry a high end HTC phone (HTC One X or better), Samsung Galaxy SIII and maybe the LG G4X...